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Nuclear conflict risk, Ukraine and Syria escalation: READ Lavrov’s interview with Tucker Carlson

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov joined the conservative American journalist to discuss recent international issues and to explain Russia’s position

Lengthy, lengthy transcript @ RT I’ve yet to read it all, but, Lavrov is in my opinion one of the best diplomat/foreign ministers around. Articulate. Thoughtful. Intelligent. A can’t miss interview.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov has given an exclusive interview to conservative American journalist Tucker Carlson this week. The two talked about a wide range of topics of international concern, primarily the conflicts in Ukraine and the Middle East, as well as the state of US-Russia relations. Here’s the full text of the conversation.

Carlson: 

Minister Lavrov, thank you for doing this. Do you believe the United States and Russia are at war with each other right now?

Lavrov:

I wouldn’t say so. And in any case, this is not what we want. We would like to have normal relations with all our neighbors, of course, but generally with all countries, especially with a great country like the United States. And President Vladimir Putin has repeatedly expressed his respect for the American people, for American history, for American achievements in the world, and we don’t see any reason why Russia and the United States cannot cooperate for the sake of the universe.

Carlson:

But the United States is funding a conflict that you’re involved in, of course, and now is allowing attacks on Russia itself. So that doesn’t constitute war?

Lavrov:

Well, we officially are not at war. But what is going on in Ukraine is what some people call a hybrid war. I would call it a hybrid war as well, but it is obvious that the Ukrainians would not be able to do what they’re doing with long-range modern weapons without the direct participation of American servicemen. And this is dangerous, no doubt about this.

We don’t want to aggravate the situation, but since ATACMS and other long-range weapons are being used against mainland Russia as it were, we are sending signals. We hope that the last one, a couple of weeks ago, the signal with the new weapon system called Oreshnik, was taken seriously.

However, we also know that some officials in the Pentagon and in other places, including NATO, started saying in the last few days something like that NATO is a defensive alliance, but sometimes you can strike first because the attack is the best defense. Some others in STRATCOM, Thomas Buchanan is his name, representative of STRATCOM, said something which allows for an eventuality of exchange of limited nuclear strikes.

And these kinds of threats are really worrying. Because if they are following the logic which some Westerners have been pronouncing lately, that don’t believe that Russia has red lines, they announced their red lines, these red lines are being moved again and again. This is a very serious mistake. That’s what I would like to say in response to this question.

It is not us who started the war. Putin repeatedly said that we started the special military operation in order to end the war which the Kiev regime was conducting against its own people in parts of Donbass. And just in his latest statement, President Putin clearly indicated that we are ready for any eventuality. But we strongly prefer a peaceful solution through negotiations on the basis of respecting the legitimate security interest of Russia, and on the basis of respecting the people who live in Ukraine, who still live in Ukraine, being Russians. Their basic human rights, language rights, religious rights, have been exterminated by a series of legislation passed by the Ukrainian parliament. They started long before the special military operation. Since 2017, legislation was passed prohibiting Russian education in Russian, prohibiting Russian media operating in Ukraine, then prohibiting Ukrainian media working in the Russian language, and the latest, of course there were also steps to cancel any cultural events in Russian. Russian books were thrown out of libraries and exterminated. The latest was the law prohibiting the canonic Orthodox Church, the Ukrainian Orthodox Church.

Read the rest at the RT link.

3 replies on “Nuclear conflict risk, Ukraine and Syria escalation: READ Lavrov’s interview with Tucker Carlson”

Hi Penny,
It’s unfortunate that almost three years into the SMO and ten years since the Maidan Coup that Lavrov has to launch into a lengthy history lesson to present the raw facts and timeline for his western audience. He is forced to break through the many layers of NATO lies and legacy media obfuscation to present his case to a largely apathetic and uninformed western public. Not many will read the complete transcript but lets hope that the video gains traction, even as it gets butchered into 20 second sound bites to match the public attention span.
Perhaps the neo-con factions have run out of escalation stratagems and we can get down to some meaningful negotiations and avoid independent “unauthorized” actions by the rudderless NATO monolith.
Let’s hope that the Christmas season can serve to moderate this ugly war between supposedly Christian nations and we can find some ‘shared values’ in peace.

Just finished the Russian Ministry’s one camera recording of the interview. ( Dog interrupted selfishly requiring his afternoon walk. )
It’s refreshing to hear a calm, rational politician engaging very important policy issues. Profound, respectful, off the cuff… Our leaders are limited to two lines of the latest slogan, shouted melodramatically. Even Tucker seemed to interrupt less often than he did with Putin. All the questions asked were answered…eventually.
The only thing Lavrov refused to answer was when asked who is really in charge in the Biden regime.

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