Russian fighter jets were scrambled after at least two UK warplanes were detected near the country’s border, Moscow has claimed.
In a statement, the country’s ministry of defence claimed that the RAF fighter jets made a U-turn as its aircraft approached – and Russia’s state border was not violated.
It said the two Typhoon craft were spotted over the Black Sea and that they were accompanied by an RC-135 reconnaissance plane, which is used by both the RAF and the US Air Force.
“The flight by the Russian fighter jets was carried out in strict compliance with the international rules for the use of airspace over international waters without crossing air routes or coming dangerously close to aircraft of a foreign state,” it added.
A short video posted by the Russian Defence Ministry, which it claims is of the incident, appears to show an RC-135 with the words “Royal Air Force” written on the side.
It really seems as if buttons are being pushed!
11 replies on “Is NATO Attempting a Provocation of Russia?”
Penny,
This certainly is an ongoing provocation. Like the long range Global Hawk surveillance drones that the USAF were using last week, one of which was recently forced down by Russian fly past, these RAF aircraft were monitoring military installations in the Crimea and mainland Russia. International rules have not kept up with modern weapon capability. It is an absurdity that in the severely restricted “international
airspace” above the Black Sea a supposedly neutral country which is transmitting precise targeting coordinates to a combatant using missiles that they themselves have donated. How can the UK and NATO not be considered active combatants and necessary parties to the killing in the target area ? How long can the Russian Air Force be restrained from destructive counter measures easily within it’s capabilities ?
You say buttons are being pushed, as in provocations are being exacerbated. Certainly, but what scares me the most is that the frail, trembling hands of the controlled and senile American supreme NATO warlord are perched above the big red button that reads “You all die.”
Yah, it’s scary Mark. And the longer it goes on the more frightening this becomes.
And there seems to be no cooler heads prevailing in the west/NATO sphere- I’d expect Europe to step up, but, they haven’t- though they are suffering the most thus far and will suffer even more should this go to hell in a hand basket.
Biden, I cannot believe this man is in charge or actually won the election- Not a fan of Trump, but, Biden is over the top corrupt and he’s unfit, completely unfit!
Penny, in the past I have few time written how “they”(the usual suspects) want to make China the next global police officer.
Do you start seeing it now, or do you want to wait until Russia invades Europe and America is in Disorder.
Before you start saying, rationally that wouldn’t happen. I would say, rationality is a luxury now a days. Act on Emotions is very popular and very hot at the moment.
Only trough suffering someone wakes up, until that time comes. They keep waltzing even after the music stops.
Hi Kaz,
I understand what you are saying.
Rather than Russia invading Europe, I see Europe disintegrating because of it’s own folly. Poor leadership.
It’s happening right in front of us. Look at Germany?
America is already in disorder.Canada is in disorder.
No need for invasion as these nations, my own included, are on the verge of falling into the pit of their own creation. And there is no shovel big enough to dig these nations out.
I see my own country as a nation that’s being torn about by it’s own leadership, filled with people who are decadent and lazy.
It’s sad to say, but, there it is!
oh and stupid, Canada is filled with stupid people- who don’t think, opting to regurgitate platitudes while the leadership steams rolls us over.
Not going to say I understand Russia in its entirety.
But lets see what has happened,
– Europe is withholding Russian Assets,
– Europe Played dumb when the pipeline blew up
– Europe facilitated training of Counter Forces
– Europe delivered arms and very importantly Intel to Ukraine
– Ridiculed the Russians trough media
– (not yet) Facilitated attacks by Ukrainians from their own countries by letting F16 fighters take off from EU territory.
– Tried to isolate Russia by going after other countries
Like I said I don’t understand the Russians fully, but they did say that they apparently need park their tanks in berlin to remind the Germans. And personally I couldn’t let all the above actions slide(ignore their aggressions). European actions has increased the causalities of the Russian and prolonged it by indirectly contributing to the war.
And here is the other next thing. Lets Say Ukraine is subjugated/pacified one way or the other. Poland has ambitions, Poland is building up his forces with fresh equipment, Poland is an US proxy. Poland had a active hand in aiding Ukraine. Poland might try to do something like that again.
“Rather than Russia invading Europe, I see Europe disintegrating because of it’s own folly.”
Why not both.
“America is already in disorder. Canada is in disorder.”
my bar for disorder is lower for me, currently at least with regards to America the system is still working and are just sucking the lower classes dry. What I am looking out for is that America has to pull back all its troops due to a national upheaval.
I don’t believe that Russia has any appetite or strategic imperative to ‘invade Europe’. Russia doesn’t even want to rule western Ukraine. They just don’t want western ICBM’s on their borders. Before the present war Russia just wanted to trade with Europe, building pipelines and increasing economic co-operation. Putin even floated the notion that Russia could join NATO and turn it into a peacekeeping and arms limitation organization. Russia has the population and all the natural resources it needs and just wants to defend it’s borders and it’s cultural identity. Modern Russia is not the Soviet Union and it harbours no Bolshevik fantasies.
Europe is descending into recession and social turmoil and this will rob China and Russia and for that matter the North American bloc of an affluent trading partner.
The historical era of invasion and occupation of hostile populations stumbled and crashed when the USSR failed to subjugate Afghanistan in the 1980’s and finally died a sorry death with US debacles in Iraq and again in Afghanistan. The cocaine addled neo-con NATO warmongers and the fanatical globalists haven’t realized this yet but history has passed them by.
“Modern Russia is not the Soviet Union and it harbors no Bolshevik fantasies.”
Before Bolshevik fantasies there were the Tsar’s ambitions. Holy Roman Empire and sorts. I am cynical and thus don’t expect a change in tendency of nations and its people, just a change in strategy. You don’t need foot on the grounds to rule a country, controlling the ruling elites is enough. That is why this entire messed started no ?, Before Maidan the Ukrainian elites sided with Russia. After Maidan Russia lost its asset and want’s to either get is back under its control or neutralize it.
” Putin even floated the notion that Russia could join NATO and turn it into a peacekeeping and arms limitation organization.”
We have already have an organization like that, what was it called again. United Nothing?, my bad United Nations.
“Europe is descending into recession and social turmoil and this will rob China and Russia and for that matter the North American bloc of an affluent trading partner.”
So what if they lose a trading parter(s). Currently the world is setup to works according to American rules. When that is no longer the case and those places end up in turmoil, what do they lose ? Gold bars, Dollar bills, Euro bills ? Scraps of paper worth nothing because they won’t have something of worth trading for. What will take in its place ? Yuan ?. Whats next, Processing?, technology ?, China is trying to catch up, but where will the high tech businesses go when their homeland is in turmoil ?, Africa ? India ? Turkey ? Arabian Continent ? Israel ? or perhaps China ?
“The historical era of invasion and occupation of hostile populations stumbled and crashed when the USSR failed to subjugate Afghanistan in the 1980’s and finally died a sorry death with US debacles in Iraq and again in Afghanistan.”
With the advance of technology, and the advance of AI, they will be able to get a good profile on every human being who is in touch with technology. And from there on they will have multiple options on how to deal with incompliant entities.
In the end I am looking at it differently. I don’t think the leaderships in Russia and China are when it comes to it, any different than those in Europe or USA. When it comes to execution it might be more obvious since the latter tries to hide it.
While I keep seeing others which are not bound to conventional media, have anti USA, anti EU leadership convictions, they tend to look at those are opposing these forces or are victims with a more forgiving perspective than normally one would. I don’t
Good retort Kaz,
I especially like your use of the term ” incompliant entities”…very descriptive. I just don’t think that the advance in AI surveillance technology will be fast enough to forestall the coming imperial collapse. It will be a long time before robots can enforce AI generated social repression. Till then to enforce social control humans will be needed to act as police and in the military. And when humans are involved chaos ensues.
It was not my intention to eulogize the leaders of Russia and China, they no doubt seek a form of world domination, but it is economic domination. A break with the American financial hegemony as you point out.
In this headlong descent into one form of totalitarianism or another I try to keep hoping that some kind of common sense revolution will avert the worst.
“I just don’t think that the advance in AI surveillance technology will be fast enough to forestall the coming imperial collapse. It will be a long time before robots can enforce AI generated social repression. Till then to enforce social control humans will be needed to act as police and in the military. And when humans are involved chaos ensues.”
We already have social bubbles which can be exploited even further until the next step ready. And sure it might not be in time for USA/EU, but China is already employing such systems, Social Credit system is just a milestone as far as I am concerned.
“but it is economic domination. A break with the American financial hegemony as you point out.”
And that economic domination is enforced by inciting riots, supporting rebels, sanctioning when the target country is not complying. And all those actions are backed by Military power. Because even it they know its USA, they can’t fight back, only minimize the damage. Same story will be case when the next one is on top.
“In this headlong descent into one form of totalitarianism or another I try to keep hoping that some kind of common sense revolution will avert the worst.”
The mentality of the people is twisted. They keep running around desperate for acknowledgement. For change to happen, people in general have to lose something of significant value.
The global order, dominated by the US, might have had a chance of longer survivability if it was more cooperative and less confrontational. The nature of it’s excessive confrontation inevitably leads to conflict.
Kaz “When it comes to execution it might be more obvious since the latter tries to hide it. ”
From most of their domestic populace, everyone else globally understands what the US has been engaged in.
As for the slide in my country and the US..
The war here has been won against the lower classes- it’s the middle class that is the target now- Perhaps you have a different bar than I?
But I’ve watched this country go down hill now for nearly 40 yrs- and certainly the last few years have seen the decline speed up.
The fall of the west will be one of it’s own making first and foremost.