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		<title>Donald Tusk: For the first time the US has stated it will militarily respond to Russian attacks on Ukraine</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Really not sure what to make of Tusk&#8217;s claim. He could be appealing to the more domestic audience in Poland, Ukraine, EU? I don&#8217;t know? Read what he said, link to source Including link to original Polish source I did not have a chance to put it through translate- sorry 🙁 Link Tusk stated that [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">Really not sure what to make of Tusk&#8217;s claim. He could be appealing to the more domestic audience in Poland, Ukraine, EU? I don&#8217;t know?</mark></strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">Read what he said, link to source Including<a href="https://wiadomosci.onet.pl/swiat/szczyt-w-berlinie-w-sprawie-ukrainy-donald-tusk-zabral-glos/zfkl2wp?utm_source=www.rbc.ru_viasg_wiadomosci&amp;utm_medium=referal&amp;utm_campaign=leo_automatic&amp;fbclid=IwY2xjawOt2ypleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFtNEJIWk5ZMlh4a0wyZWNIc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHsYP_RIGHiOEyrDjW9eZFkHMsZauFRiHxAFefobYejSe97vmi1X3zu1mFcuY_aem_wG0EisR8ezER4_BsXPmzFw" data-type="link" data-id="https://wiadomosci.onet.pl/swiat/szczyt-w-berlinie-w-sprawie-ukrainy-donald-tusk-zabral-glos/zfkl2wp?utm_source=www.rbc.ru_viasg_wiadomosci&amp;utm_medium=referal&amp;utm_campaign=leo_automatic&amp;fbclid=IwY2xjawOt2ypleHRuA2FlbQIxMABicmlkETFtNEJIWk5ZMlh4a0wyZWNIc3J0YwZhcHBfaWQQMjIyMDM5MTc4ODIwMDg5MgABHsYP_RIGHiOEyrDjW9eZFkHMsZauFRiHxAFefobYejSe97vmi1X3zu1mFcuY_aem_wG0EisR8ezER4_BsXPmzFw"> link to original Polish source</a></mark></strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">I did not have a chance to put it through translate- sorry <img src="https://s.w.org/images/core/emoji/17.0.2/72x72/1f641.png" alt="🙁" class="wp-smiley" style="height: 1em; max-height: 1em;" /></mark></strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><a href="https://uatv.ua/en/tusk-the-united-states-has-for-the-first-time-stated-it-will-respond-to-russia-with-military-force-if-it-attacks-again/" data-type="link" data-id="https://uatv.ua/en/tusk-the-united-states-has-for-the-first-time-stated-it-will-respond-to-russia-with-military-force-if-it-attacks-again/"><strong>Link</strong></a></p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Tusk stated that for the first time he heard from U.S. negotiators that the United States <strong><em>“will commit to providing Ukraine with security guarantees in such a way that the Russians will have no doubts that (in the event of a ceasefire violation — ed.) the U.S. response will be military.”</em></strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">According to him, <strong>U.S. President’s special envoy Steve Witkoff “was unequivocal on this point.”</strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>“It is a fact that for the first time it has become so clear that the Americans, Europeans, and Ukraine are on the same side,”</strong> the Polish prime minister said.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The head of the Polish government also stressed that the only real chance to persuade Russia to engage in serious negotiations on ending the war, or “<strong><em>at least on a ceasefire,”</em></strong> is the unity of the entire West.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><em>“We need to remain allies together with the Americans and Ukrainians so that the Russians and Putin see that it is impossible to drive a wedge between these three sides,”</em></strong> he said.</p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">My feeling is this is not entirely accurate, but, don&#8217;t know.</mark></strong></p>



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		<title>Polish media reveals alleged secret Trump-Putin peace proposal</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Western media is spinning this meeting in so many directions, as usual. &#8211; Including where this alleged meeting is set to take place. Turkey? Italy? Or the UAE? If they haven’t got one specific location for the meeting, yet, is there going to be a meeting? However&#8230;. this thought keeps going through my head; If [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">Western media is spinning this meeting in so many directions, as usual. &#8211; Including where this alleged meeting is set to take place. Turkey? Italy? Or the UAE? If they haven’t got one specific location for the meeting, yet, is there going to be a meeting?</mark></strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">However&#8230;. this thought keeps going through my head; <em>If the US is offering up a “peace agreement” who has Russia been fighting all this time? </em>Ukraine? That doesn’t make sense.</mark></strong></p>



<h5 class="wp-block-heading"><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">Below you&#8217;ll find  what’s been leaked regarding the proposal, keeping in in mind we are supposed to believe the US has made a legitimate, serious offer for peace to Russia. A <em>“significant shift”</em> as is being claimed? </mark></h5>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">Is this really a shift? Is this a serious offer for peace?</mark></strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><a href="https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/world-int/27630-polish-media-reveals-alleged-secret-trump-putin-peace-proposal.html" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.helsinkitimes.fi/world-int/27630-polish-media-reveals-alleged-secret-trump-putin-peace-proposal.html"><strong>Link</strong></a></p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>A r<a href="https://www.onet.pl/informacje/onetwiadomosci/ujawniamy-szczegoly-propozycji-pokojowych-donalda-trumpa-dla-wladimira-putina-moskwa/s85qgmx,79cfc278" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">eport from the Polish outlet Onet</a> claims to have obtained details of a proposed US offer to Moscow</strong>. According to the report, Trump’s envoy <strong>Steve Witkoff presented a six-point plan</strong> to the Russian government during meetings in Moscow. The key elements include an immediate ceasefire in Ukraine and the lifting of most US sanctions on Russia.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>The proposal reportedly allows Russia to retain control of Ukrainian territory it currently occupies, with the status of those <code>areas to be reviewed in 49 to 99</code> </strong>years. It also offers to <strong><code>restore Russian access to international oil and gas markets at a later stage.</code></strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">However, <strong><code>the reported plan does not guarantee a halt to NATO expansion and confirms that US military assistance to Ukraine would continue.</code></strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Analysts say<strong> the proposals, if accurate, mark a significant shift in the US position</strong>. <mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">(?)</mark> Senior researcher Jussi Lassila from the Finnish Institute of International Affairs said<strong> the framework mirrors earlier ceasefire suggestions rejected by Moscow last winter</strong>.<mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">(?)</mark> This time, however, Russia might be more willing to consider the terms due to increasing economic pressure.</p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">This leak  to the media would have been done intentionally.</mark></strong></p>



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		<title>Poland  Continues to Prepare For Direct War With Russia-</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Poland has been being prepared for a potential war with Russia for far longer now then Feb 2022. Of this I&#8217;m certain having written about the preparations being made back in 2014 at my censored site, republished here in 2022. Keep in mind that Zbigniew Brzezinski was born in Poland. And had actively planned to [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">Poland has been being prepared for a potential war with Russia for far longer now then Feb 2022</mark></strong>.<mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color"> <strong>Of this I&#8217;m certain having written about the preparations being made back in 2014 at my censored site</strong></mark>, <strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">republished here in 2022</mark></strong>.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">Keep in mind that Zbigniew Brzezinski was born in Poland. And had actively planned to target, weaken and encircle Russia.- As part of the Technotronic era.</mark></strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">The US does not want peace with Russia- The multi decade plan is in place- Trump&#8217;s peace presidency has been a ruse. As he&#8217;s talking gibberish in the forefront, all plans are proceeding for direct war via Poland. NATO&#8217;s eastern front proxy.</mark></strong></p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark>Going back in time- to April 14/ 2014, when the Polish seeds were germinating in order to grow the new big power in the EU</mark></strong>.<strong><mark> After a certain recalcitrant government was gotten rid of</mark></strong> <strong><mark>in 2010</mark></strong></p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">Followed up thereafter with many reports expanding on this geopolitical change </mark></strong>&#8211; <strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">I&#8217;ve relinked a few of them in this report- Including changes made between Ukraine and Poland. Poland having a Russian government in waiting within it&#8217;s borders.</mark></strong></p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Poland has been reinvigorating its military preparations for a potential war with Russia</strong> since Russia’s full-scale invasion of Ukraine began in February 2022. Warsaw is bolstering its defenses in anticipation of the growing likelihood of direct armed conflict with its perennial historical rival, given the uncertainties surrounding U.S. President Donald Trump’s attempts to broker peace between Moscow and Kyiv, as well as the prospect of Russia consolidating its territorial gains in Ukraine.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>The Polish government calculates that if Washington forces Ukraine to surrender parts of its territory and elements of its sovereignty, while Russia is enabled to restore its economy and military through the lifting of economic sanctions, then Poland will be on the front lines of the next war.</strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">In recent weeks, the coalition government of Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk has taken several domestic and international steps to strengthen Poland’s military capabilities and social preparedness. In a major speech in parliament on March 7, Tusk explained the basis for Poland’s accelerated military buildup Tusk warned that intelligence reports shared by allies indicate that Moscow is planning for a significantly larger war within three to four years by massively investing in its military expansion and capacity for mobilization. Tusk also noted that it was unlikely that Ukraine would receive any hard security guarantees from the United States under any prospective peace deal, meaning that Poland’s predicament had become more dangerous.</p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">During the parliamentary speech, <strong>Tusk announced plans to introduce voluntary military training for every adult male so they will be ready to become “full-fledged soldiers in conflict situations</strong>”  The purpose of the training is to create a substantial reserve force over the coming years by providing incentives for annual training without implementing compulsory military service The training program will include courses in civil defense, first aid provisioning, and firearms training. In addition to men, women will have the option to join the training program.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Tusk claimed that the government was considering the need to build a half-million-strong army in Poland, including reservists. Poland already possesses the third-largest military in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) and the largest in the European Union</strong> with 216,100 personnel (Notes from Poland, July 16, 2024). <strong>It is surpassed only by the United States (1.3 million) and Türkiye (481,000), </strong>and is followed by France (204,700), Germany (185,600), Italy (171,400), and the United Kingdom (138,100). The previous Law and Justice (Prawo i Sprawiedliwośċ, PiS) government had set a target in 2022 to increase the size of the armed forces to 300,000 personnel. That figure has now been increased due to the growing threat from Russia and the uncertainty surrounding the United States’s commitment to defending Europe.<br>Poland’s focus on national defense has been evident in its consistent increases in military spending and weapons acquisitio<strong>n  In 2022, Poland was one of only nine NATO members to maintain its military spending above the 2 percent of GDP (Gross Domestic Product) guidelines agreed upon by NATO leaders and reaffirmed by their 2014 “Defense Investment Pledge” (NATO, June 18, 2024). Warsaw subsequently increased its share to 3.9 percent in 2023, the highest among all NATO members, even ahead of the United States at 3.49 percent. By 2024, Warsaw’s defense spending had reached 4.12 percent of GDP and is projected to grow to 4.7 percent in 2025.</strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>The Alliance also issued guidelines stating that at least 20 percent of annual defense expenditures should be allocated for the purchase of military equipment. Poland has consistently met or exceeded this target, allocating more than 50 percent of its defense spending to military modernization, the highest level in the alliance  In one recent acquisition, Poland’s Defense Ministry signed a deal worth about $1.7 billion to acquire 111 Borsuk (Badger) tracked infantry fighting vehicles from the country’s state-run Polish Armaments Group (Polska Grupa Zbrojeniowa, PGR). Defense Minister Władysław Kosiniak-Kamysz underscored that Warsaw was delivering on promises to invest in Poland’s defense industry</strong>.<br><strong>Another element in Poland’s military buildup consists of constructing major border fortifications with Belarus and Russia (Kaliningrad oblast)</strong> </p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><a href="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65545636" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65545636"><strong>Recently- Kaliningrad: Russia fury as Poland body recommends renaming exclave</strong></a></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">Provocative Poland&#8230;.</mark></strong></p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"> <strong>At a cost of 2.4 billion euros ($2.56 billion), Warsaw is fortifying approximately 700 kilometers (435 miles) of its eastern and northern borders in preparation for a potential attack. This “East Shield” (Tarcza Wschód) project includes new physical infrastructure, such as bunkers, minefields, and anti-tank obstacles, together with electronic components, including satellite monitoring, thermal imaging cameras, and anti-drone systems.</strong></p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">According to Kosiniak-Kamysz, the project will be completed by 2028 and will strengthen capabilities against a surprise attack, impede the movement of enemy troops, facilitate the movement of Polish forces, and protect the civilian population <strong>Warsaw expects funding for East Shield from various EU defense programs and reached a preliminary agreement in March with the European Investment Bank (EIB) for 1 billion euros ($1.08 billion) in funding</strong>. The European Parliament has recognized the project as a flagship initiative for EU-wide defense (European Parliament, March 12).</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">Please read the entire article at Eurasian Review-</mark></strong></p>



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		<title>Poland &#8211; Give us some nukes</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[We’ve talked previously on the subject of building up of Poland at the expense of Germany- To increase pressure on Russia. I&#8217;m pondering the possibility of their being a Turkish factor in all this. To reduce Turkey&#8217;s strategic importance in NATO? Defense news Straitstimes This is not a fear stance, this is an agressor stance [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">We’ve talked previously on the subject of  building up of Poland at the expense of Germany- To increase pressure on Russia. I&#8217;m pondering the possibility of their being a Turkish factor in all this. To reduce Turkey&#8217;s strategic importance in NATO?</mark></strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><a href="https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2025/03/13/polands-president-calls-on-us-to-place-nuclear-weapons-in-poland" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.defensenews.com/global/europe/2025/03/13/polands-president-calls-on-us-to-place-nuclear-weapons-in-poland"><strong>Defense news</strong></a></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><a href="https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/polands-president-urges-u.s.-to-move-nuclear-warheads-to-polish-territory-ft-reports" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.straitstimes.com/asia/polands-president-urges-u.s.-to-move-nuclear-warheads-to-polish-territory-ft-reports"><strong>Straitstimes</strong></a></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">This is not a fear stance, this is an agressor stance</mark></strong></p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">WARSAW, Poland (AP) — Poland’s President<strong> Andrzej Duda again called on the United States to deploy nuclear weapons to Poland as a deterrent to Russia,</strong> the latest indication that the frontline NATO nation is increasingly considering nuclear protection as fears of Russia grow.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Duda’s adviser for international affairs, Wojciech Kolarski, followed up on Duda’s appeal with an interview on Poland’s RMF FM radio </strong>Thursday morning in which he argued that nuclear protection would improve security for Poland, a NATO member along the alliance’s eastern flank that shares borders with Ukraine, Belarus and the Russian territory of Kaliningrad.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Prime Minister Donald Tusk, a political opponent of Duda’s, said last week that Poland was in talks with France concerning President’s Emmanuel Macron’s proposal to use France’s nuclear deterrent</strong> to protect the continent from Russian threats. Moscow called that idea “extremely confrontational.”</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;<strong><em>The borders of NATO moved east in 1999, so 26 years later there should also be a shift of the NATO infrastructure east. For me this is obvious,&#8221;</em></strong> the FT cited Duda as saying in an interview.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">It would be safer if those weapons were already in the country, Duda added.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Polish Prime Minister Donald Tusk</strong>, a political opponent of Duda, said on Thursday he<strong> thought it was better to address such issues discreetly rather than in media interviews, although he added that he believed the president had good intentions.</strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">&#8220;<strong><em>We should formulate certain expectations… publicly when we are certain, or have reasons to be convinced, that such appeals or calls will be heard and that the addressee, in this case the American administration, President Trump, is prepared for a positive response,&#8221;</em></strong> Tusk told reporters.</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 26 Aug 2024 17:28:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[This seemed inevitable after the Kursk incursion- Which may have featured chemical weapons and was clearly an absurd move on the part of Ukraine A roundup of reports Sky news Russia launched about 200 missiles and drones at Ukraine overnight on Monday, in what appeared to be the biggest attack on the country in weeks. [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">This seemed inevitable after the Kursk incursion- Which may have featured chemical weapons and was clearly an absurd move on the part of Ukraine</mark></strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">A roundup of reports</mark></strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><a href="https://news.sky.com/story/russia-launches-huge-bombardment-on-ukraine-as-zelenskyy-condemns-vile-attack-13203743" data-type="link" data-id="https://news.sky.com/story/russia-launches-huge-bombardment-on-ukraine-as-zelenskyy-condemns-vile-attack-13203743"><strong>Sky news</strong></a></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Russia launched about 200 missiles and drones at Ukraine overnight on Monday, </strong>in what appeared to be the biggest attack on the country in weeks.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Ukraine&#8217;s prime minister Denys Shmyhal added <strong>there was damage in a number of regions and that Ukraine&#8217;s state-owned power grid operator, Ukrenergo, has been forced to implement emergency power cuts to stabilise the system.</strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Mr Shmyhal was one of a group of top Kyiv officials who urged Western allies and arms suppliers to allow long-range strikes into Russia, while Mr Zelenskyy redoubled his call on allies such as Poland to join Ukraine in shooting down missiles and drones over Ukrainian airspace.</strong></p>



<figure class="wp-block-pullquote"><blockquote><p><strong>The Ukrainian regions that reported damage included Rivne and Volyn in the northwest, Khmelnytsk in the southwest, Zhytomyr in the north, Lviv in the west, Dnipropetrovsk, Kirovohrad and Vinnytsia in central Ukraine, Zaporizhzhia in the southeast and Odesa in the south.</strong></p></blockquote></figure>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The Kremlin said on Monday that it had used high precision weapons to strike energy infrastructure vital to Ukraine&#8217;s war effort.</p>



<figure class="wp-block-pullquote"><blockquote><p><strong>It also said any prospect of ceasefire talks with Kyiv had &#8220;lost its relevance&#8221; and warned of further response to the incursion into Kursk.</strong></p></blockquote></figure>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">Ukraine claims it has long range weapons that will not require allied consent to use</mark></strong>&#8211;<strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color"> Not sure why their asking for allies assistance to use long range weapons?</mark></strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><a href="https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/ukraine-counts-new-long-range-weapon-bypass-western-113145443" data-type="link" data-id="https://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/ukraine-counts-new-long-range-weapon-bypass-western-113145443"><strong>Ukraine says it has a new homegrown long-range weapon that will allow it to strike deep into Russia without asking permission from allies</strong></a></p>



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<li><strong>Ukraine says it has a new long-range weapon to strike deep into Russia without asking permission from allies — a homegrown combination of missile and drone that the defense minister vowed Monday would provide “answers” to a wave of Russian bombings.</strong></li>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>The “Palianytsia”</strong> was created due to urgent necessity, Ukrainian officials said, as Russia has dominated the skies since the outbreak of the war in February 2022 and Ukraine&#8217;s Western allies have placed conditions on use of their long-range missiles in Russia. On Monday, a wave of Russian missiles and drones targeted Ukraine’s electrical infrastructure in the largest such attack in weeks.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“Defenders of life should have no restrictions on weapons, as long as Russia uses all kinds of its own weapons,” President Volodymyr Zelenskyy said in a Telegram message following the attacks.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><em>Zelenskyy confirmed on Saturday the existence of the Palianytsia, named after a type of Ukrainian bread and a word so<code> notoriously difficult to pronounce correctly that it was used to unmask suspected spies early in the war.</code> The Ukrainian president called it “a new class&#8221; of weapon.</em></strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color"><a href="https://inews.co.uk/news/world/ukraine-pleads-west-long-range-weapons-russian-missile-barrage-3245230?ITO=newsnow" data-type="link" data-id="https://inews.co.uk/news/world/ukraine-pleads-west-long-range-weapons-russian-missile-barrage-3245230?ITO=newsnow">Ukraine pleads with west for to use long range missiles</a></mark></strong></p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Ukrainian officials have called on its allies to allow long-range attacks “deep inside Russia territory”</strong> with Western-supplied weapons, amid reports of an explosion at a huge Russian oil refinery in south-west Siberia.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Andriy Yermak, the Ukrainian president’s chief of staff, asked Western countries for permission to use their weapons to “speed up the end of Russian terror”</strong> following a barrage of Russian strikes across Ukraine.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The Russian military said it had used high-precision weapons to strike energy infrastructure inside Ukraine on Sunday night, with reports of at least four people killed and 37 injured in 15 regions.</p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><a href="https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-updates-4-dead-as-russia-pummels-power-grid/live-70046726">https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-updates-4-dead-as-russia-pummels-power-grid/live-70046726</a></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Russian drones and missiles attacked energy infrastructure across Ukraine on Monday morning, resulting in at least four fatalitie</strong>s. Prime Minsiter Denys Shmyhal said 15 regions were affected in all.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Russia hits hydroelectric power station near Kyiv</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">A hydroelectric power station at Kiev&#8217;s main reservoir has been damaged by a Russian airstrike, Ukrainian media reports say.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Poland reports drone in airspace after Russian attack on Ukraine</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The Polish military said on Monday that the country&#8217;s airspace was penetrated by an object entering from the direction of Ukraine, as its neighbor was targeted by deadly Russian airstrikes.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">Interesting how the US presents the Russian strikes on Ukraine vs the Israeli demolition of Gaza</mark></strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><a href="https://osce.usmission.gov/on-the-russian-federations-ongoing-aggression-against-ukraine-3">https://osce.usmission.gov/on-the-russian-federations-ongoing-aggression-against-ukraine-3</a></p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">We’ve heard a lot today about Russia’s ongoing attacks against Ukraine. <strong>They’re brutal. They’re unacceptable. We condemn them in the strongest terms.</strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Yet, despite Russia’s extreme effort, Ukraine remains sovereign and independent. Celebrating Ukraine’s August 24th Independence Day after 914 days of war is a testament to its independence, sovereignty, and its inherent right to choose and protect its democratic path.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">I congratulate Ukraine on its independence. This date marks the day in 1991 when Ukraine officially left the Soviet Union and became a sovereign, democratic country. It’s a day of pride for Ukraine’s resilience, and a celebration of Ukrainian heritage and culture.</p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">The US  never condemns or even investigaes Israel&#8217;s brutality- Always excusing attrocities while claiming Israel will investigate itself.</mark></strong></p>
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		<title>Poland as a New Nuclear Superpower?</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Feb 2024 12:27:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Newsweek NATO member Poland should eventually get nuclear weapons as a security measure, a top Polish general has said. Following Russia&#8217;s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, Warsaw has been a key supporter of Kyiv and has warned of the danger posed by the Kremlin, which has made repeated nuclear threats. Without mentioning Russia by name, Brigadier [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><a href="https://www.newsweek.com/poland-general-russia-nuclear-kraszewski-1869036?piano_t=1" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.newsweek.com/poland-general-russia-nuclear-kraszewski-1869036?piano_t=1">Newsweek</a></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>NATO member Poland should eventually get nuclear weapons as a security measure, a top Polish general has said.</strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Following Russia&#8217;s full-scale invasion of Ukraine, Warsaw has been a key supporter of Kyiv and has warned of the danger posed by the Kremlin, which has made repeated nuclear threats.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Without mentioning Russia by name,<strong> Brigadier General Jaroslaw Kraszewski told Polish media outlet RMF FM that if Poland had nuclear weapons it would deter aggression from abroad because nuclear powers enjoy a high degree of security.</strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><em>&#8220;I consider it a challenge of several years to have such an arsenal,&#8221; said Kraszewski, according to a translation. &#8220;I hope it will come to that.&#8221;</em></strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><em>&#8220;I think this scenario is very realistic,&#8221; </em></strong>he added.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">Some relevant background</mark></strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">Excerpts from a 2014 post at my old site</mark></strong></p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">And who could forget?</mark></strong></p>



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		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Dec 2023 18:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Jerusalem Post Pretty straightforward reporting- Search completed. Nothing found. Nearly 500 soldiers of the Territorial Defense Force took part in the search near the city of Zamosc in southeastern Poland. Poland ended a ground search on Saturday after finding no parts of a suspected Russian rocket which it said had violated the country&#8217;s airspace on [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><a href="https://www.jpost.com/international/article-780133" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.jpost.com/international/article-780133">Jerusalem Post</a></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">Pretty straightforward reporting- Search completed. Nothing found.</mark></strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Nearly 500 soldiers of the Territorial Defense Force took part in the search </strong>near the city of Zamosc in southeastern Poland.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Poland ended a ground search on Saturday after finding no parts of a suspected <a href="https://www.jpost.com/breaking-news/article-780018" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer noopener">Russian rocket</a> which it said had violated the country&#8217;s airspace on Friday morning,</strong> the Polish army said.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>&#8220;At 3:00 pm, the inspection of the designated area was completed&#8230;The search result was negative,</strong>&#8221; the Polish army&#8217;s operational command wrote on social media platform X, formerly Twitter.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>&#8220;Military activities have been completed and we do not plan any further field verification.&#8221;</strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><a href="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/russia-demands-evidence-that-one-of-its-missiles-crossed-through-polands-airspace" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/russia-demands-evidence-that-one-of-its-missiles-crossed-through-polands-airspace"><strong>Russia is demanding evidence from Poland, but does any actually exist?</strong></a></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><em>“We will not give any explanations until we are presented with concrete evidence, because these accusations are unsubstantiated,” Ordash told RIA Novosti.</em></strong></p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2023 12:42:59 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Can&#8217;t be discounted- No way, no how! Security Service alleges coup On the morning of September 18, the Georgian Security Service issued a statement saying that there are plans to repeat the Ukrainian Euromaidan in Georgia. According to the SBG, behind this plan are “certain groups of individuals acting on the territory of Georgia and [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">Can&#8217;t be discounted- No way,  no how!</mark></strong></p>



<h5 class="wp-block-heading"><strong><em><a href="https://jam-news.net/security-service-alleges-coup/" data-type="link" data-id="https://jam-news.net/security-service-alleges-coup/">Security Service alleges coup</a></em></strong></h5>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>On the morning of September 18, the Georgian Security Service issued a statement saying that there are plans to repeat the Ukrainian Euromaidan in Georgia.</strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">According to the SBG,<strong> behind this plan are “certain groups of individuals acting on the territory of <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://jam-news.net/category/geography/georgia/" target="_blank">Georgia</a> and beyond its borders,” specifically ethnic Georgians working in the Ukrainian government and residing in Ukraine.</strong> The statement mentions three people:</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Giorgi Lortkipanidze, deputy head of Ukraine’s military intelligence, </strong>who was deputy interior minister under Saakashvili’s government, is named as the author of the plan<em><strong>. A former security guard of ex-president Mikheil Saakashvili,</strong></em> <strong>Mikhail Baturin,</strong> is also mentioned. Another figure is<strong> Mamuka Mamulashvili, a member of Saakashvili’s closest entourage and commander of the Georgian Legion operating in Ukraine.</strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">According to the SBG, t<strong>he training of young people who will take part in the riots is taking place near the border with Poland:</strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“According to confirmed and verified information<strong>, the plan developed by Lortkipanidze is to use a rather large group of persons of Georgian origin fighting in Ukraine and a part of Georgian youth under the influence of interested parties, whose training is being conducted near the Polish-Ukrainian state border.”</strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The agency also <strong>names several Ukrainian organizations,</strong> which, according to its information, are also involved in the process:</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><em>“To prepare youth groups for use in the revolutionary scenario, the Kanvas organization is used, the core of which is the <span style="text-decoration: underline;">Otpor</span> organization. These are the organizations that took active part in the revolutionary processes that unfolded in Serbia in the past, and, accordingly, are regularly used in different countries to train young people and involve them in destructive processes.</em></strong>”</p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otpor" data-type="link" data-id="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Otpor"><strong>Otpor</strong></a> + <a href="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/30/gene-sharp-dead-arab-spring-political-scientist" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/jan/30/gene-sharp-dead-arab-spring-political-scientist"><strong>Gene Sharp/US Scholar</strong></a> =<strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color"> Western backed destablization tactics</mark></strong></p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">According to the Georgian security service, all<strong> these individuals and people close to them are planning to stage mass riots in October-December. “</strong>The ultimate goal of this is to <strong>change the government by violent methods.”</strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>October-December were not randomly chosen as the date for the start of destructive processes, the statement goes on, as this is the period when the interim and final conclusions of the European Commission [on Georgia’s obtaining the status of an EU candidate country] are to be published.</strong></p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>“The expectation of the conspirators preparing for the overthrow of state power is calculated that the published conclusion will be negative, which, with the information networks at their disposal, artificially attached to the government with the slogan of ‘pro-Russianity’, will create fertile ground for public unrest and further disturbances.”</strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“As for the scenario, according to the information of the SGB, <strong>several scenarios for the development of events are being considered, including the creation of the so-called “tent city”, erection of barricades on the central avenues and near strategic objects of Georgia, occupation and barricading of government buildings, as well as other illegal actions containing elements of serious provocation. In particular, it is confirmed that the organizers are considering the possibility of repeating in Georgia the Euromaidan that took place in Ukraine in 2014.”</strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The statement also stressed that this plan was planned with the coordination and financial support of foreign countries.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Associate Professor of Ilia State University Giorgi Meladze responds to the statement of SBG that the group “Kanvas” is engaged in preparing young people for such an event.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>According to the director of “Kanvas”, no coup d’état is planned by the group, and the purpose of SBG is to intimidate people.</strong></p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">So what is being planned?</mark></strong></p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“SBG talks about coups… Which it always does, but this time it is adding the Kanwas organization to all this. I am currently the director of Kanvas-Georgia and I am not planning any coup. The only purpose of the statement is to intimidate people!</p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The statement against me was published in the spring. The author of the statement was [Irakli] Kobakhidze [chairman of the ruling Georgian Dream party], and even then he called me an “extremist.”<strong><em> I have worked with many groups and with various activists over the past 20 years, and it is very important for me to work together with active people in civil society to create better systems of governance.</em></strong> What the SBG is saying today, I have heard similar statements from authoritarian states before. <strong><em>No matter what, I will continue my work spreading knowledge about non-violent campaigns!”, said Giorgi Meladze.</em></strong></p>
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		<title>Ukraine&#8217;s Grain Embargoed by Poland, Romania and Hungary going to WTO</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Sep 2023 12:12:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[I&#8217;ve mentioned this issue previously. This dispute is a challenge to the centralized overlord in the EU BNNBloomberg (Bloomberg) &#8212; Ukraine will file a complaint to the World Trade Organization over an import ban of its grain into Poland, Hungary and Slovakia “in several hours,” according to Deputy Economy Minister Taras Kachka.  Kyiv also plans [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">I&#8217;ve mentioned this issue previously</mark></strong>. T<strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">his dispute is a challenge to the centralized overlord in the EU</mark></strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><a href="https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/ukraine-recap-kyiv-plans-to-file-a-wto-complaint-over-grain-ban-1.1972770" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.bnnbloomberg.ca/ukraine-recap-kyiv-plans-to-file-a-wto-complaint-over-grain-ban-1.1972770"><strong>BNNBloomberg</strong></a></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">(Bloomberg) &#8212; <strong>Ukraine will file a complaint to the World Trade Organization over an import ban of its grain into Poland, Hungary and Slovakia “in several hours,” a</strong>ccording to Deputy Economy Minister Taras Kachka. </p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Kyiv also plans to retaliate with its own bans on imports of several products if they don’t scrap similar restrictions, and may target goods such as onions and apples from Poland and cars from Hungary,</strong> Kachka said by phone Monday.</p>



<h6 class="wp-block-heading"><a href="https://ukragroconsult.com/en/news/ukraine-to-sue-poland-hungary-and-slovakia-over-extension-of-grain-import-ban/" data-type="link" data-id="https://ukragroconsult.com/en/news/ukraine-to-sue-poland-hungary-and-slovakia-over-extension-of-grain-import-ban/">Ukraine to sue Poland, Hungary and Slovakia over extension of grain import ban</a></h6>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Kyiv will sue Poland, Hungary and Slovakia over their refusal to lift the ban on Ukrainian agricultural products.</strong> This was announced by Taras Kachka, Deputy Minister of Economy and Trade Representative of Ukraine, in an interview with <a rel="noreferrer noopener" href="https://www.politico.eu/article/ukraine-will-sue-poland-hungary-and-slovakia-over-agricultural-bans/" target="_blank">Politico</a>.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>“It is important to prove that these actions are legally wrong. That’s why we will start lawsuits on Monday, September 18,</strong>” Kachka said, adding that Kyiv is also preparing to restrict imports of Polish fruits and vegetables.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Poland, Hungary and Slovakia opposed the European Commission, </strong>which on September 15 decided to lift restrictions on the export of certain categories of Ukrainian agricultural products.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>The three countries said they would impose their own embargoes</strong> on grain from Ukraine. “<strong><span style="text-decoration: underline;">In our eyes, these measures by Hungary and Poland are a statement of complete distrust of the European Commission,</span></strong>” Kachka said.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">According to him, <strong>open <span style="text-decoration: underline;">disobedience</span> <mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">(not obeying)</mark> on the part of Poland, Hungary and Slovakia is not only an internal EU matter. It has also raised concerns about whether international trading partners might believe that Brussels speaks for the entire EU.</strong></p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">It&#8217;s always seemed to me Brussels speaks for the US and not the EU.</mark></strong></p>
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					<description><![CDATA[A general round up of related news articles English Alarabiya Russia’s armed forces on Tuesday prevented an attempt by a group of Ukrainian saboteurs to cross the border into Russia’s Bryansk region, the region’s governor, Alexander Bogomaz, said in a post on Telegram. Missile Strikes in Western Ukraine, closer to Polish border https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-updates-russia-fires-missiles-at-several-regions/live-66531277 Large crater [&#8230;]]]></description>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">A general round up of related news articles</p>



<h5 class="wp-block-heading"><a href="https://english.alarabiya.net/News/world/2023/08/15/Russia-prevented-Ukrainian-saboteur-group-from-crossing-into-Bryansk-region-Governor" data-type="link" data-id="https://english.alarabiya.net/News/world/2023/08/15/Russia-prevented-Ukrainian-saboteur-group-from-crossing-into-Bryansk-region-Governor">English Alarabiya</a></h5>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>Russia’s armed forces on Tuesday prevented an attempt by a group of Ukrainian saboteurs to cross the border into Russia’s Bryansk region, the region’s governor, Alexander Bogomaz, said in a post on Telegram.</strong></p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">Missile Strikes in Western Ukraine, closer to Polish border</mark></strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><a href="https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-updates-russia-fires-missiles-at-several-regions/live-66531277">https://www.dw.com/en/ukraine-updates-russia-fires-missiles-at-several-regions/live-66531277</a></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">Large crater in Lviv </mark></strong>@ <a href="https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1691334288711598080" data-type="link" data-id="https://twitter.com/Gerashchenko_en/status/1691334288711598080">Anton Gerashchenko</a></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><a href="https://www.newsweek.com/russia-missile-strike-ukraine-crater-video-1819810?piano_t=1" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.newsweek.com/russia-missile-strike-ukraine-crater-video-1819810?piano_t=1">Newsweek</a></p>



<h5 class="wp-block-heading"><a href="https://english.alarabiya.net/News/world/2023/08/09/Russia-claims-Poland-plans-to-create-unit-for-occupation-of-Western-Ukraine-Shoigu" data-type="link" data-id="https://english.alarabiya.net/News/world/2023/08/09/Russia-claims-Poland-plans-to-create-unit-for-occupation-of-Western-Ukraine-Shoigu">Last Week Sergei Shoigu claimed Poland has plans to occupy western Ukraine</a></h5>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu claimed on Wednesday that Poland has created plans presumably for security but are in fact for the “occupation of Western Ukraine.”</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><em>“There are plans to create on a regular basis the so-called Polish-Ukrainian connection supposedly to ensure the security of Western Ukraine, but in fact &#8211; for the subsequent occupation of this territory,</em></strong>” Shoigu said according to state news agency TASS.</p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">Poland moved 10000 troops to the border with Belarus/Ukraine</mark></strong></p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><a href="https://nord.news/2023/08/15/10000-more-polish-troops-to-border-with-belarus/">https://nord.news/2023/08/15/10000-more-polish-troops-to-border-with-belarus/</a></p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><code>NATO has significantly increased its defensive presence in the eastern part of the alliance </code></strong>in response to Russia’s aggressive actions, and we continue to do what is necessary to deter any threat and protect every inch of allied territory,” Lungescu said, as quoted by the Associated Press.</p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">I’ve long thought Poland intended to occupy Western Ukraine- It’s previously held territory, so I don’t take issue with Shoigu’s claim- In fact Poland has moved additional troops to the area</mark></strong>, r<strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">eported above</mark></strong></p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Jarosław Kaczyński, the chairman of Poland’s ruling party, has described his main election rival Donald Tusk as “the personification of pure evil” and called the opposition “traitors [who] must be morally exterminated”.</p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">The Law and Justice (PiS) leader, who also serves as deputy prime minister, was speaking at a series of “military picnics” being organised by the defence ministry around Poland.</p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">At one today in the town of Uniejów, central Poland, Kaczyński declared that “Tusk is the personification of evil in Poland, pure evil”.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">He accused the opposition leader of “gathering all dark elements under his banner in order simply to win, to implement a plan that is not Polish, but [a plan] of the Brussels bureaucracy”. The only way to prevent this from happening is “voting for Law and Justice, for a strong Poland”.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Yesterday, at another military picnic in the southeastern town of Zawichost, Kaczyński warned that “in Poland there is a truly powerful camp of national treason that today is striving for power”.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“Someone here among the audience said that traitors should be exterminated,” the PiS leader continued. “Yes, they must be morally exterminated.”</p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">For his part, Tusk recently suggested that Poland’s ruling Law and Justice (PiS) party is supported by – and shares a mentality with – unemployed men who beat women and children.</p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">Donald Tusk. I remember the name very well. Rose to prominence years back when Poland lost most of it’s government in a very odd plane crash-</mark></strong></p>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">“I knew there was no way I would be able to sit in a trench, so I took my savings and contacted a ‘fixer’. Everyone knows where to find them. I paid in cash, they sent me to a hospital to do a spinal MRI; the hospital gave me a medical report claiming I had a major spinal defect, and with that I could get papers allowing me to leave the country. I had the feeling that, at every stage of the way, people knew what was happening and were getting a cut,” said the man.</p>



<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong>It is believed that tens of thousands of Ukrainian men have left the country illegally since the full-scale war with Russia started last February, many by paying bribes.</strong></p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">Left illegally? So, they weren&#8217;t free to leave Ukraine?</mark></strong></p>



<h5 class="wp-block-heading"><a href="https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20230814/ukraine-says-it-stopped-air-attacks-on-odesa-while-british-and-dutch-jets-watch-russian-bombers" data-type="link" data-id="https://www.dailyherald.com/news/20230814/ukraine-says-it-stopped-air-attacks-on-odesa-while-british-and-dutch-jets-watch-russian-bombers">Reports that Russia had struck Odessa on a mass scale, Monday, yet Ukraine claimed to have intercepted every incoming missile, drone etc.,</a></h5>



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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Russia launched three waves of drones and missiles against the southern Ukraine port city of Odesa, officials said Monday, though the Ukrainian air force said it intercepted all the airborne weapons fired during the nighttime attacks.</p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph">Falling debris from the interceptions of 15 Shahed drones and eight Kalibr missiles damaged a residential building, a supermarket and a dormitory of an educational facility in the city, Odesa Gov. Oleh Kiper said.</p>
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<p class="wp-block-paragraph"><strong><mark style="background-color:rgba(0, 0, 0, 0)" class="has-inline-color has-accent-color">There are contradictory claims regarding the strikes on Odessa- suggesting Ukraine didn&#8217;t intercept everything. Also, as Ukraine attempted to intercept, Russian military was able to locate the placement of these air defense weapons and take them out.</mark></strong></p>
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