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##### [**ABC News**](https://abcnews.go.com/International/kremlin-describing-information-frenzy-declines-detail-moscows-view/story?id=127852942)

> Kremlin spokesperson Dmitry Peskov declined to elaborate on Moscow’s position in the unfolding U.S.-Ukraine negotiations regarding Russia’s full-scale invasion of its neighbor, telling journalists on Tuesday it was “***impossible to comment” amid what he called “an information frenzy.”***
> 
> Russian officials have offered limited reaction to the weekend talks in Geneva, Switzerland, which saw American, European and Ukrainian officials meet to discuss the controversial U.S.-backed peace plan proposal
> 
> Peskov, though, said Tuesday that Moscow could not yet comment. ***“It’s impossible to comment on every media report right now”***
> 
> ***“I would describe the situation as an information frenzy — there’s no other way to describe it,***” he said. ***“Indeed, a lot of contradictory information is being published, contradictory statements, and so on and so forth.”***

##### [**Europeans Pushing the NATO poison pill**](https://responsiblestatecraft.org/europeans-nato-ukraine-deal/)

> **Efforts to leave the door ajar to Ukraine membership will kill any deal to end the war, which our transatlantic friends know quite well**
> 
> Into this fragile process**, European capitals have thrown a wrench. Having circulated various [“counter plans,”](https://www.reuters.com/business/finance/full-text-european-counter-proposal-us-ukraine-peace-plan-2025-11-23/) they have now [settled](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2025/11/24/ukraine-peace-plan-europe-russia/) on a different tactic: offering unsolicited amendments to the American proposal.**
> 
> **The effort is reportedly being led by the E3 – Britain, France and Germany.** Rubio, however, poured cold water on those efforts by [stating](https://unn.ua/en/amp/rubio-said-he-had-heard-nothing-about-an-alternative-plan-from-europe-to-end-the-war) in Geneva that he was “unaware of any European drafts.” **Tellingly, he [refused](https://www.politico.eu/newsletter/brussels-playbook/can-europe-learn-not-to-rely-on-donald-trump/) to meet with the EU’s High Representative for Foreign Affairs, Kaja Kallas, a former Prime-Minister of Estonia. This is a stunning diplomatic snub that highlights her profound incompetence as the embodiment of the maximalist position consisting, in her own words, only in “weakening [Russia](https://responsiblestatecraft.org/tag/russia/) and supporting Ukraine”.**
> 
> It remains to be seen what specific amendments Europeans are introducing to the American plan but based on the principles they have expressed so far, including in the previously leaked counterplans, **some of their amendments would almost certainly amount to poison pills designed to ensure the deal’s collapse.**
> 
> **That could then be blamed on Moscow and used to justify a return to a default setting of a protracted war. Nowhere is this more evident than on the issue of NATO.**

**Embedding the earlier post- Possibly explaining the EU’s idiocy?!**

> [The EU needs the Russian Bogeyman](https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2025/11/25/the-eu-needs-the-russian-bogeyman/)



##### [US and Russia hold peace talks in Abu Dhabi as missiles pound Kyiv](https://www.asiaone.com/world/us-and-russia-hold-peace-talks-abu-dhabi-missiles-pound-kyiv)

> WASHINGTON/KYIV — **US Army Secretary Dan Driscoll has held unannounced talks with Russian officials in Abu Dhabi** as part of an intense new push by President Donald Trump’s administration to end the war in Ukraine and more meetings were expected on Tuesday (Nov 25).
> 
> The talks come as US and Ukrainian officials sought to narrow the gaps between them over a peace plan, with core issues still unresolved and Ukraine wary of being strong-armed into accepting a deal largely on the Kremlin’s terms.
> 
> **The exact nature of the talks in Abu Dhabi, which were confirmed to Reuters by a US official, were not immediately clear, and it was not known who was in the Russian delegation**. The US official added that Driscoll, who has emerged as a point man for US diplomatic efforts, was also expected to meet Ukrainian officials while in Abu Dhabi.

That’s Ukraine updates for the day 🙂