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**It’s reported the meeting went on for 10 hrs- with 3 breaks. Seemed to me that there had to have been a whole lot of back and forth- but no meeting of the minds.**

**Two reports;**

[First from TASS](https://tass.com/politics/1933239)

> MOSCOW, March 24. /TASS/. Russian Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman **Maria Zakharova has stated that one should not anticipate any breakthroughs from the ongoing Russia-US consultations in Saudi Arabia’s Riyadh, as there are numerous issues to work out there.**
> 
> ***“These are talks conducted behind closed doors. Of course, one should not expect some kind of breakthroughs, but rather understand that the work is being conducted in several areas,” t***he diplomat said at a meeting with students at the Plekhanov Russian University of Economics as part of the Monthly Top project carried out by the First Media Academy.

**2nd;** [**US and Russia engaging in ‘creative’ talks – Moscow**](https://www.rt.com/russia/614705-black-sea-talks-riyadh)

> The US-Russian talks held in Saudi Arabia are a ***“creative”*** endeavor, though they may not yield a diplomatic breakthrough on Monday, a Russian lawmaker who is part of Moscow’s delegation told journalists.
> 
> **Grigory Karasin, chairman of the International Relations Committee in Russia’s upper chamber of parliament, provided the media an update during a break in the talks in Riyadh. The discussions, which he described as “technical,” focus on maritime security in the Black Sea and the possibility of reviving the Black Sea Initiative,** which was originally mediated by th**e UN and Türkiye.** Russia withdrew from the deal in July 2023, citing the West’s failure to provide sanctions relief for its grain exports, as the conditions of the arrangement required.
> 
> ***“Not every negotiation yields a high-profile document or agreement,” Karasin remarked before returning to the closed-door meetings. “What matters is maintaining communication and understanding each other’s positions. In this regard, we are succeeding.”***
> 
> Alongside Karasin, Russia’s delegation includes Sergey Beseda, an adviser to the director of the Federal Security Service. Their American counterparts, as identified by Reuters, are Andrew Peek, a senior director at the White House National Security Council, and Michael Anton, a senior State Department official.
> 
> When asked about possible outcomes, Kremlin spokesman Dmitry Peskov remarked earlier in the day that they “primarily concern the safety of maritime traffic. However, if you recall \[the original version\] of the deal, there were significant obligations made to our side that were never fulfilled. This remains part of the agenda.”
> 
> US President Donald Trump has suggested revisiting the grain deal as part of his efforts to mediate a broader truce between Russia and Ukraine, Peskov added.

 **The Black Sea, the grain deal, this interconnects with Turkey, Montreux etc. Which is why Turkey is being subjected to a colour revolution.**

**And, I should add this is not the first crack at one I can recall. In 2013 there was the start of one at Gezi Par[k. With social media featuring large in the protests- ](https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-22772352)As it had during all the so called Arab Springs. Including Syria. And is again in Turkey.**

**Shortly thereafter, in 2016, there was a coup attempt, that included an attempt on Erdogan’s life- Fortunately for him Russia alerted him to the impending attack- though, I’m certain Turkish intelligence was aware. I wrote extensively about that attempted coup- Which had some really unique features. Connections to Greece, US figures and early reports of Erdogan’s demise in the Egyptian press.**