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		By: penny2		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2024/12/10/syria-the-aftermath/#comment-4597&quot;&gt;Gary Wilson&lt;/a&gt;.

Yes, they have the right crew to get it done under!  Reorder out of chaos.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2024/12/10/syria-the-aftermath/#comment-4597">Gary Wilson</a>.</p>
<p>Yes, they have the right crew to get it done under!  Reorder out of chaos.</p>
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		By: penny2		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2024 21:06:42 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2024/12/10/syria-the-aftermath/#comment-4596&quot;&gt;Ally&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Ally,

I&#039;ve been swamped the past couple of days, and haven&#039;t had a chance to look at the Turkish side of this situation- but, intend to do just that, because this is the next birth pang in the new middle east.  IMO, in tandem with other places, but, things will get active on the Turkey/US occupation/proxy side- Anticipate the demonization of Turkey to ramp up

&quot;Do you think Assad was a Western proxy at all?&quot;- No. I think he squandered and advantage that was given to  him by the Russian intervention and the Astana cooperation- To much had been left to fester for too long.

&quot; He didn’t do much to get rid of the Kurds occupying his country either.&quot; 
He could have cooperated with Turkey on this matter, but, didn&#039;t
I also think the American/Israeli axis would have made that impossible. Israel bombed Syria the entire time. He should have cleared them out of that portion of Aleppo, minimally, but didn&#039;t. 

&quot;There is a lot of speculation online that the Turks are working with Israel to occupy/bomb/terrorize Syria.&quot;&quot;

Not working with Israel, but, I do think they will try to maintain a buffer to cut the Kurds off from the Mediterranean as an impediment to the creation of Israel 2.0 which will be catastrophic for Turkey]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2024/12/10/syria-the-aftermath/#comment-4596">Ally</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Ally,</p>
<p>I&#8217;ve been swamped the past couple of days, and haven&#8217;t had a chance to look at the Turkish side of this situation- but, intend to do just that, because this is the next birth pang in the new middle east.  IMO, in tandem with other places, but, things will get active on the Turkey/US occupation/proxy side- Anticipate the demonization of Turkey to ramp up</p>
<p>&#8220;Do you think Assad was a Western proxy at all?&#8221;- No. I think he squandered and advantage that was given to  him by the Russian intervention and the Astana cooperation- To much had been left to fester for too long.</p>
<p>&#8221; He didn’t do much to get rid of the Kurds occupying his country either.&#8221;<br />
He could have cooperated with Turkey on this matter, but, didn&#8217;t<br />
I also think the American/Israeli axis would have made that impossible. Israel bombed Syria the entire time. He should have cleared them out of that portion of Aleppo, minimally, but didn&#8217;t. </p>
<p>&#8220;There is a lot of speculation online that the Turks are working with Israel to occupy/bomb/terrorize Syria.&#8221;&#8221;</p>
<p>Not working with Israel, but, I do think they will try to maintain a buffer to cut the Kurds off from the Mediterranean as an impediment to the creation of Israel 2.0 which will be catastrophic for Turkey</p>
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		By: penny2		</title>
		<link>https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2024/12/10/syria-the-aftermath/#comment-4598</link>

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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2024 20:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2024/12/10/syria-the-aftermath/#comment-4595&quot;&gt;Gary Wilson&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey Gary,

Might have played a role in the situation in the  early days, sure.
Assad had a big plan, think I mentioned it in a previous post
I was the 4 seas plan- I&#039;d covered this at the old site
brief link

https://www.upi.com/Energy-News/2011/01/06/Syrias-Assad-pushes-Four-Seas-Strategy/98471294335880/

President Bashar Assad calls his vision the Four Seas Strategy to link the Mediterranean, the Caspian Sea, the Black Sea and the Persian Gulf into an energy network.

This eastward-looking strategy is intersecting with China&#039;s push westward in quest of oil, natural gas, raw materials and markets and converges on the Caspian, a major energy-producing zone.

&quot;Given the rising instability of Middle East energy supplies, the Caspian Basin has emerged in prominence as an alternative resource for the world&#039;s growing energy consumers,&quot; says Christina Y. Lin, a visiting fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. 

This strategy took in the 4 seas and was part of the belt and road project on a larger scale

The US and Israel couldn&#039;t have this reality unfold- It left Israel out of the picture, It included Iran, Azerbaijan, Syria, Iraq and Turkey (it was part of quite a big vision)  Part of the Belt and Road which is a very big project.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2024/12/10/syria-the-aftermath/#comment-4595">Gary Wilson</a>.</p>
<p>Hey Gary,</p>
<p>Might have played a role in the situation in the  early days, sure.<br />
Assad had a big plan, think I mentioned it in a previous post<br />
I was the 4 seas plan- I&#8217;d covered this at the old site<br />
brief link</p>
<p><a href="https://www.upi.com/Energy-News/2011/01/06/Syrias-Assad-pushes-Four-Seas-Strategy/98471294335880/" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.upi.com/Energy-News/2011/01/06/Syrias-Assad-pushes-Four-Seas-Strategy/98471294335880/</a></p>
<p>President Bashar Assad calls his vision the Four Seas Strategy to link the Mediterranean, the Caspian Sea, the Black Sea and the Persian Gulf into an energy network.</p>
<p>This eastward-looking strategy is intersecting with China&#8217;s push westward in quest of oil, natural gas, raw materials and markets and converges on the Caspian, a major energy-producing zone.</p>
<p>&#8220;Given the rising instability of Middle East energy supplies, the Caspian Basin has emerged in prominence as an alternative resource for the world&#8217;s growing energy consumers,&#8221; says Christina Y. Lin, a visiting fellow at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy. </p>
<p>This strategy took in the 4 seas and was part of the belt and road project on a larger scale</p>
<p>The US and Israel couldn&#8217;t have this reality unfold- It left Israel out of the picture, It included Iran, Azerbaijan, Syria, Iraq and Turkey (it was part of quite a big vision)  Part of the Belt and Road which is a very big project.</p>
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		By: Gary Wilson		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2024 20:30:52 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Penny:
It now looks like Syria is doing its best impression of a WWF &quot;Free for All&quot;.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Penny:<br />
It now looks like Syria is doing its best impression of a WWF &#8220;Free for All&#8221;.</p>
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		By: Ally		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2024 20:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2024/12/10/syria-the-aftermath/#comment-4595&quot;&gt;Gary Wilson&lt;/a&gt;.

I do sometimes wonder why Assad didn’t cooperate more with Turkey. Do you think Assad was a Western proxy at all? He didn’t do much to get rid of the Kurds occupying his country either.
I don’t know if I completely agree with that tweet. Qatar/Saudi money? Wouldn’t the Saudis/Qataris want him to cooperate with the Turks as well?
Imo, neither Syria nor Turkey should have turned against one another. Both countries had the same interests in this war. Both countries were a target.
There is a lot of speculation online that the Turks are working with Israel to occupy/bomb/terrorize Syria. Nothing could be further from the truth. 
Have you seen Erdogan saying that him and Putin are the onlt 2 world leaders left? I think he is implying that they are next.
Have you also seen the protests in Iran in recent years? Definitely western backed destabilization! Again, the Iranian government should also make reforms as the people’s grievances will only be taken advantage of by powers who have other ideas!]]></description>
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<p>I do sometimes wonder why Assad didn’t cooperate more with Turkey. Do you think Assad was a Western proxy at all? He didn’t do much to get rid of the Kurds occupying his country either.<br />
I don’t know if I completely agree with that tweet. Qatar/Saudi money? Wouldn’t the Saudis/Qataris want him to cooperate with the Turks as well?<br />
Imo, neither Syria nor Turkey should have turned against one another. Both countries had the same interests in this war. Both countries were a target.<br />
There is a lot of speculation online that the Turks are working with Israel to occupy/bomb/terrorize Syria. Nothing could be further from the truth.<br />
Have you seen Erdogan saying that him and Putin are the onlt 2 world leaders left? I think he is implying that they are next.<br />
Have you also seen the protests in Iran in recent years? Definitely western backed destabilization! Again, the Iranian government should also make reforms as the people’s grievances will only be taken advantage of by powers who have other ideas!</p>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Dec 2024 20:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Penny:
Is there any chance that Assad&#039;s refusal to allow a natural gas pipeline through Syria from Qatar to Turkey had anything to do with this?
I also read a report that the Syrian army was corrupt at the top as generals were pocketing money coming in to the country to support Syria. I am guessing that as bad as the external pressure was bad, what was worse was the internal pressure that might be called the Syrian deep state. Assad did what he could but I don&#039;t think he could make all the other changes he wanted to make.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Penny:<br />
Is there any chance that Assad&#8217;s refusal to allow a natural gas pipeline through Syria from Qatar to Turkey had anything to do with this?<br />
I also read a report that the Syrian army was corrupt at the top as generals were pocketing money coming in to the country to support Syria. I am guessing that as bad as the external pressure was bad, what was worse was the internal pressure that might be called the Syrian deep state. Assad did what he could but I don&#8217;t think he could make all the other changes he wanted to make.</p>
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