--- title: "Aleppo Deja Vu! Cui Bono? Israel and the US" type: "post" post_id: "7903" slug: "aleppo-deja-vu-cui-bono-israel-and-the-us" canonical: "https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2024/11/29/aleppo-deja-vu-cui-bono-israel-and-the-us/" markdown_url: "https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2024/11/29/aleppo-deja-vu-cui-bono-israel-and-the-us.md" json_url: "https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2024/11/29/aleppo-deja-vu-cui-bono-israel-and-the-us.json" txt_url: "https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2024/11/29/aleppo-deja-vu-cui-bono-israel-and-the-us.txt" published: "2024-11-30T00:02:07+00:00" modified: "2024-11-30T13:29:53+00:00" author: "penny2" categories: - "Uncategorized" tags: - "Israel" - "Syria" - "Turkey" - "US" site_name: "PFYT2" publisher: "" language: "en-US" generator: "easyPress Markdown" generator_version: "1.0.6" --- **At my former site, there was so much *“ink spilled*” about Aleppo & Syria that I felt compelled to address this most recent push by Usrael terrorists into Aleppo**. **To understand who is stationed where in Syria- the map linked below will be of great help** ###### [**Map, and make it bigger for more detail**](https://jusoor.co/storage/posts/ckeditor/upload/images/Map%20of%20the%20military%20bases%20and%20posts%20of%20foreign%20forces%20in%20Syria-01%281%29.jpg) **Some of these are just small outposts- some are bases. At Tanf is a big military base. In the east of Syria the US and allies have multiple bases. With airfields. Turkey is based along it’s own border.** **There are people claiming either misinforming or disinforming this is the work of Turkey.` I don’t think so.`** `They have nothing to gain and everything to lose from what is going on in Aleppo at this time.` **Astana Agreement** --------------------- **In 2020 – I covered this my former site** ###### **You can find the statement [at the pdf](https://www.tccb.gov.tr/assets/dosya/2020-07-01-ucluzirve-en.pdf) or [Mehr news](https://en.mehrnews.com/news/160434/Iran-Russia-Turkey-issue-joint-statement-on-Syria)** **Briefly, Russia, Turkey and Iran worked together through a series of agreements and meetings that took place in Astana, the capital of Khazakstan- There are so many reports on the Astana meetings at my google censored blog, it would consume to much of my time right now to move them here, however here’s a viable article, accessible to all, right now.** > [Syrian opposition rejects Geneva talks before new round of Astana negotiations](https://npasyria.com/en/48180/) **When Russia, Turkey and Iran formed the `Astana group` they had a number of goals they were working towards. One was keeping Syria’s borders intact. Turkey wanted the refugees to go back to Syria as it was a strain on their resources. They also hoped to displace the PKK that had been so warmly embraced by the occupation forces of the US. Together, they were stealing Syrian resources, attempting to annex Syrian territory and join it to the part of Iraq, largely inhabited by ethnic Kurds, but, also and more importantly, the PKK. The US has bases in that part of Iraq as well** **this is how they supply their forces, including PKK, in north eastern Syria.** **The US and it’s PKK allies were and probably still plan to cut the entire north of Syria off ,to annex it. To create a continuous territory to the Mediterranean. We’re talking about pipeline politics here as well! Obviously, Turkey, Syria and Iran wanted nothing to do with this.** **Another Astana and Russian goal was getting Syrian & Turkish relations normalized. There had been repeated meetings etc., If Syria &Turkey would re-establish good relations this would be a big showy feather in Russia’s cap. As well as an impediment in the US plan to remake the region. And would stop Israel in it’s expansionist goals! This is the really short version of events, but there it is.** **From the article linked above** > “**It is necessary to draw a new map that paves the way for a truce or calm** and prevents the collapse of what has been built, and to address the situation of al-Nusra Front and Hayat Tahrir al-Sham and prevent the return of ISIS,” he told North Press. > “**The facts on the ground are clear through the Astana phases and the activation of new agreements to protect the M4 and M5 roads,” He added.** **Russia and Turkey have been jointly patrolling these highways for years now- The opening of these two highways would enable passage of people and products and go a long way towards normalizing relations between Turkey and Syria.** **There are two main parties who would NEVER want to see Turkey and Syria have good trade relations or good neighbour relations-Those two parties are the US and Israel. Some EU member states as well, but, US and Israel are the main impediments. A detente between Syria and Turkey stop the remake in it’s tracks. Israel wouldn’t have it’s Kurdish allies to work with the wreak even more havoc in the region- If you can imagine that to be possible?!** **In 2023 there was an article in Jerusalem Post** > [Turkey and Syria: Normalization Or More US Involvement?](https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2023/07/24/turkey-and-syria-normalization-or-more-us-involvement/) > “**In the long term Turkey wants to work with Russia and Iran, as well as Damascus to get the US to leave Syria”** > Turkey, Russia and Iran described the latest talks in Astana as “constructive” and said they discussed **“preparing the roadmap for the restoration of relations between Turkey and Syria.”** **Last year a roadmap for the restoration of relations between Turkey and Syria was in the works As stated at that time –`”Which means the US better step up and aid their PKK proxies..”` Did anyone think the US and Israel were going to let these restored relations happen? Not without a fight- And that’s what is going on in Aleppo****, right now. The impediment.** > [Russia, Turkey, Syria and Iran Discuss Ankara-Damascus Agreement](https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2023/04/04/russia-turkey-syria-and-iran-discuss-ankara-damascus-agreement/) > Deputy foreign ministers from Russia, Turkey, Syria and Iran on Tuesday **completed two days of talks in Moscow aimed at restoring ties between Ankara and Damascus.** **Those meetings working towards restoration of ties were not unknown to Israel and the US.** **The two highways mentioned above- the M4 and M5 pass through Aleppo- There have been reports that the Usrael backed terror crowd in Aleppo are trying to take control of the strategic roadways. Bad for Syria**, **Turkey, Iran and inevitably Russia.** **Oh and China too. [Because belt and road is a big project](https://www.ebrd.com/what-we-do/belt-and-road/overview.html).** > [China](https://www.ebrd.com/who-we-are/structure-and-management/shareholders/china.html)’s Belt and Road Initiative (BRI) (一带一路) is a strategy initiated by the People’s Republic of China that seeks to connect Asia with Africa and Europe via land and maritime networks with the aim of improving regional integration, increasing trade and stimulating economic growth. **I don’t think this is a coincidence, that there were reports of exploding walkie talkies, ala Israeli terrorism, in Syria- affecting SAA** > ⚡️BREAKING: > > Dozens of wireless communications devices including pagers and walkie-talkies have exploded among the Syrian Arab Army. > > Investigations into the incident are underway. 🇸🇾 [pic.twitter.com/2ZB3cpvXVz](https://t.co/2ZB3cpvXVz) > > — The Global Monitor (@theglobal4u) [November 29, 2024](https://x.com/theglobal4u/status/1862516798790234121?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw) **Is this why Israel agreed to the ceasefire with Lebanon? So they could kick this off in Syria? A nation they’ve been continuously bombing.** **Blaming Turkey is, in my opinion, a distraction from the real perps. Turkey simply has nothing to gain. [Israeli media is reporting this as an opportunity for change as Netanyahu assesses](https://www.timesofisrael.com/jihadists-turkish-backed-allies-enter-aleppo-in-lightning-assault-on-syrian-regime/)** > “It doesn’t necessarily affect us, especially not in the short term, but any erosion of stability in a neighboring country could also impact us.**` It seems here that there are also opportunities for change.”`** **So the conditions are being created for the opportunity to be exploited.**