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**I’m at a loss with these two attempts on Trump’s life. Both attempts by what appear to be 2 useful idiots.**

[Link](https://www.nytimes.com/2024/09/15/us/politics/trump-shooting-suspect-routh.html)

> **Ryan Wesley Routh, the 58-year-old man** who was arrested on Sunday in connection with what the F.B.I. described as an [attempted assassination on former President Donald J. Trump](https://www.nytimes.com/live/2024/09/17/us/trump-assassination-attempt), **had expressed the desire to fight and die in Ukraine.**

**I’m not impressed with what he expressed, he clearly didn’t go to fight or die in Ukraine.** **He seemingly went to Afghanistan to recruit Afghan soldiers.**

> On the messaging application Signal, Mr. Routh wrote that “Civilians must change this war and prevent future wars” as part of his profile bio. On WhatsApp, his bio read, “Each one of us must do our part daily in the smallest steps help support human rights, freedom and democracy; we each must help the chinese.”

> **Mr. Routh, a former roofing contractor from Greensboro, N.C**., was interviewed by The New York Times in 2023 for [an article about Americans volunteering to aid the war effort in Ukraine](https://www.nytimes.com/2023/03/25/world/europe/volunteers-us-ukraine-lies.html). **Mr. Routh, who had no military experience, said he had traveled to the country after Russia’s invasion and wanted `to recruit Afghan soldiers to fight there.`**

> **What’s interesting about this foreign recruitment story is tha[t Ukraine had recently, been working to recruit Hayat Tahrir al-Sham in Syria to come join the fight](https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/videos/international/need-your-help-zelensky-begs-syrian-terrorists-to-join-ukraine-army-in-war-against-russia/videoshow/113233618.cms)**

**Also, there were quite a few reports of ISIS fighters being flown by the US and friends from Syria and Iraq to Ukraine**

> [ISIS Fighting Russians in Ukraine](https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2022/11/01/isis-fighting-russians-in-ukraine/)



**Routh claims to have facilitated or played some type of role in this recruiting scheme**

> In a telephone interview with The New York Times in 2023, when Mr. Routh was in Washington, he spoke with the self-assuredness of a seasoned diplomat who thought his plans to support Ukraine’s war effort were sure to succeed. But he appeared to have little patience for anyone who got in his way. When an American foreign fighter seemed to talk down to him in a Facebook message he shared with The New York Times, Mr. Routh said, “he needs to be shot.”
> 
> **In the interview, Mr. Routh said he was in Washington to meet with the U.S. Commission on Security and Cooperation in Europe, known as the Helsinki Commission “for two hours” to help push for more support for Ukraine.**
> 
> **Mr. Routh also said he was seeking recruits for Ukraine from among Afghan soldiers who had fled the Taliban.** He said he planned to move them, **in some cases illegally, from` Pakistan` and Iran to Ukraine**. He said dozens had expressed interest.
> 
> ***“We can probably purchase some passports through Pakistan, since it’s such a corrupt country,”*** he said.
> 
> It is not clear whether Mr. Routh followed through, but one former Afghan soldier said he had been contacted and was interested in fighting if it meant leaving Iran, where he was living illegally.

**Pakistan is chock full of CIA types- I did a series at my censored blog on a spook named Raymond Davis- I’ll relink them at a later date. For now, if your interested in going down the rabbit hole**

[**How a Single Spy Helped Turn Pakistan Against the United States**](https://www.nytimes.com/2013/04/14/magazine/raymond-davis-pakistan.html)

[**via Archive.ph**](https://archive.ph/1TRQH)

**Back to Routh**

> **A man with the same name and similar age as Mr. Routh was arrested in 2002 in Greensboro, N.C., after barricading himself inside a building with a fully automatic weapon**, according to the Greensboro News & Record newspaper.
> 
> The newspaper said **the man was charged with carrying a concealed weapon and possession of a fully automatic machine gun. It is not clear how the charges were resolved.**
> 
> **It is not clear if Mr. Routh, a** lean man with reddish-brown hair who wore American flag clothing in one of his profile pictures, **fired any shots before leaving the scene on Sunday, according to the Secret Service.**
> 
> In a series of posts on X in 2020, Mr. Routh expressed admiration for former Representative Tulsi Gabbard, then a Democratic presidential candidate, saying “she will tirelessly negotiate peace deals in Syria, Afghanistan, and all turmoil zones.”
> 
> At some point over the past several years, Mr. Routh moved to Hawaii, where a man with his name ran a small business.

**It’s unclear if he fired any shots, but, he sure shoots his mouth off! I just can’t shake that sleight of hand, useful idiot vibe.**

**Update September 18/24**

**As mentioned yesterday, but, want to include additional links- There is nothing to indicate this man fired a single shot at Trump according to all reports I’ve seen to date**

[**Washington Post**](https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/about-pfyt2/)

*The armed man in the bushes **never fired a shot or got the former president in his sights**, officials said.*

Authorities said the *suspect did not fire a shot and never had a clear line of sight* to shoot Trump.

**A Secret Service agent** protecting Trump, the Republican nominee in the November election, was **walking the perimeter of the course** Sunday when **he saw a gun poking out of the tree line near where Trump was golfing and fired in that direction**