Comments on: Breaking News: Russia offers clear ceasefire conditions- Ukraine rejects

By: Kaz

Kaz — Mon, 17 Jun 2024 20:49:35 +0000

In reply to penny2. That is exactly my concern

By: penny2

penny2 — Mon, 17 Jun 2024 20:02:13 +0000

In reply to Kaz. The EU has really stepped into the doo doo in this situation- it's really feeling as if the US will leave them holding the bag and your right discontent will increase along with the tax burden.

By: penny2

penny2 — Mon, 17 Jun 2024 19:59:43 +0000

In reply to Gary Wilson.

The quirks of wordpress- Hi Gary, my response below

I wish Ukraine would just make peace. Or they would be allowed to make peace, which is definitely a more accurate description.
I agree if they do not it’s quite likely Russia will take Odesa and connect to Transnistria ( I recall the news of the mass killing in Odesa very well)
Poland, in my opinion, won’t hesitate to take territory.
Hungary will if Poland does.
I’ve got a few older posts on that subject here.

By: Kaz

Kaz — Sun, 16 Jun 2024 22:54:13 +0000

In reply to Gary Wilson. Than the question remains, what will happen with the pledged support to Ukraine post-war. To me the worst thing that can happen is the start of a negative loop for the EU. As in can't/doesn't want to help. International reputation takes a hit, animosity increases. Or EU does help Ukraine, but EU public will suffer for higher taxes. Thus creating discontent.

By: Gary Wilson

Gary Wilson — Sun, 16 Jun 2024 21:56:32 +0000

Hi Penny:
If Ukraine is not allowed to make peace now they will lose more territory: Odesa will become part of Russia. It’s primarily another Russian speaking area of Ukraine. It’s where the people protesting the coup were herded into a building which was then set on fire and the occupants were not allowed out. Many died. No way that Putin has forgotten it.
That will leave what is left of Ukraine landlocked. Poland and Hungary may take back the parts of Ukraine that were previously their territory.