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		By: Kaz		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2024 13:30:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2024/04/14/scoop-biden-told-bibi-u-s-wont-support-an-israeli-counterattack-on-iran/#comment-3947&quot;&gt;penny2&lt;/a&gt;.

mass consensus...... yeah, the question is at what cost. Because humans can be quite irrational. Historic events tells us that much.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2024/04/14/scoop-biden-told-bibi-u-s-wont-support-an-israeli-counterattack-on-iran/#comment-3947">penny2</a>.</p>
<p>mass consensus&#8230;&#8230; yeah, the question is at what cost. Because humans can be quite irrational. Historic events tells us that much.</p>
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		By: penny2		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2024 11:38:21 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[can&#039;t help but notice the US and UK are delivering the same sort of message to Israel and a wider perception management message to the global audience
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/david-cameron-urges-israel-to-be-smart-as-well-as-tough-and-not-retaliate-against-iran_uk_661ccaf4e4b0f709554b1c9c

To Israel
&quot; Lord Cameron urged Israel to “take the win” and not risk a further escalation of violence in the Middle East.&quot;
Take the win- same as Biden

“What we have to do with allies is win the argument in the broader global environment about who is really the aggressor here, but also make sure that they try and de-escalate the situation so that there isn’t further loss of life and suffering.”

The allies have to convince the western populace who the aggressor really is- We do know that it was Israel- but the powers that shouldn&#039;t be are going to attempt to convince us it was Iran

It&#039;s Israel that will need to be convinced to de-escalate-
Is David Cameron going to be PM again? He&#039;s really been everywhere (media wise) lately]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>can&#8217;t help but notice the US and UK are delivering the same sort of message to Israel and a wider perception management message to the global audience<br />
<a href="https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/david-cameron-urges-israel-to-be-smart-as-well-as-tough-and-not-retaliate-against-iran_uk_661ccaf4e4b0f709554b1c9c" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/david-cameron-urges-israel-to-be-smart-as-well-as-tough-and-not-retaliate-against-iran_uk_661ccaf4e4b0f709554b1c9c</a></p>
<p>To Israel<br />
&#8221; Lord Cameron urged Israel to “take the win” and not risk a further escalation of violence in the Middle East.&#8221;<br />
Take the win- same as Biden</p>
<p>“What we have to do with allies is win the argument in the broader global environment about who is really the aggressor here, but also make sure that they try and de-escalate the situation so that there isn’t further loss of life and suffering.”</p>
<p>The allies have to convince the western populace who the aggressor really is- We do know that it was Israel- but the powers that shouldn&#8217;t be are going to attempt to convince us it was Iran</p>
<p>It&#8217;s Israel that will need to be convinced to de-escalate-<br />
Is David Cameron going to be PM again? He&#8217;s really been everywhere (media wise) lately</p>
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		By: penny2		</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Apr 2024 11:28:54 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2024/04/14/scoop-biden-told-bibi-u-s-wont-support-an-israeli-counterattack-on-iran/#comment-3946&quot;&gt;Kaz&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey Kaz
Ive seen similar information regarding the Israeli population..  

I guess in both cases the populace would have to reach some sort of mass consensus?
One would think Ukrainians would be there given the state of their military and the enormous loss of their population?]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2024/04/14/scoop-biden-told-bibi-u-s-wont-support-an-israeli-counterattack-on-iran/#comment-3946">Kaz</a>.</p>
<p>Hey Kaz<br />
Ive seen similar information regarding the Israeli population..  </p>
<p>I guess in both cases the populace would have to reach some sort of mass consensus?<br />
One would think Ukrainians would be there given the state of their military and the enormous loss of their population?</p>
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		By: Kaz		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Kaz]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2024 21:34:04 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2024/04/14/scoop-biden-told-bibi-u-s-wont-support-an-israeli-counterattack-on-iran/#comment-3945&quot;&gt;penny2&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;I’m waiting for the Israeli’s to toss their leadership to the curb, same as Ukraine.&quot; 

What the sentiment is in Israel is in my blind spot. So the following is just going to be hearsay. I got the following from the Middle East eye YouTube channel, where its being said. That Israeli society have no qualms with the operations against Palestinians. They just don&#039;t like the current leadership.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmK7mzoFXJ8]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2024/04/14/scoop-biden-told-bibi-u-s-wont-support-an-israeli-counterattack-on-iran/#comment-3945">penny2</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;I’m waiting for the Israeli’s to toss their leadership to the curb, same as Ukraine.&#8221; </p>
<p>What the sentiment is in Israel is in my blind spot. So the following is just going to be hearsay. I got the following from the Middle East eye YouTube channel, where its being said. That Israeli society have no qualms with the operations against Palestinians. They just don&#8217;t like the current leadership.</p>
<p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmK7mzoFXJ8" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lmK7mzoFXJ8</a></p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2024 21:01:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Back to topic- the insane Israeli leadership is claiming they&#039;ve drawn up plans to attack Iran
I&#039;m waiting for the Israeli&#039;s to toss their leadership to the curb, same as Ukraine.

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/uk-us-frantic-diplomacy-prevent-uncontrollable-wider-war-iran-attack-3006700

Prime Minister Rishi Sunak called for “calm heads to prevail” as US President Joe Biden warned Israel not to launch a counterattack against Tehran’s attempted drone and missile strikes, which marked a major ramping up of the proxy war between the two Middle Eastern powers.

However, the calls for breathing space came as the Israel Defence Forces announced it had drawn up plans to attack Iran in response for its drone strike, adding it had “authorised operational plans for both offensive and defensive action”, although no further details were given.

https://inews.co.uk/news/biden-warns-israel-us-not-support-iran-counteroffensive-3006035?ico=in-line_link

&quot;Mr Guterres also said at the meeting, which was held at Israel’s request, that **Iran had written to the president of the security council and said the attack was defensive after an Israeli airstrike destroyed its consulate in Damascus, Syria on April 1.

He also pointed out that ***“the charter of the United Nations prohibits the use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state”, adding attacks on diplomatic premises are not allowed***&quot;

It was Israel that initiated by striking Iran&#039;s diplomatic premises but still Israel persists

&quot;Mr Guterres’ remarks come after Israel’s a military spokesman Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari earlier suggested that the country has drawn up plans to attack Iran in response to an overnight drone assault on Saturday night after the country’s war cabinet held a meeting.

Mr Hagari said the cabinet had authorised operational plans for both offensive and defensive action in response to Iran’s drone and missile attack on Saturday night.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Back to topic- the insane Israeli leadership is claiming they&#8217;ve drawn up plans to attack Iran<br />
I&#8217;m waiting for the Israeli&#8217;s to toss their leadership to the curb, same as Ukraine.</p>
<p><a href="https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/uk-us-frantic-diplomacy-prevent-uncontrollable-wider-war-iran-attack-3006700" rel="nofollow ugc">https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/uk-us-frantic-diplomacy-prevent-uncontrollable-wider-war-iran-attack-3006700</a></p>
<p>Prime Minister Rishi Sunak called for “calm heads to prevail” as US President Joe Biden warned Israel not to launch a counterattack against Tehran’s attempted drone and missile strikes, which marked a major ramping up of the proxy war between the two Middle Eastern powers.</p>
<p>However, the calls for breathing space came as the Israel Defence Forces announced it had drawn up plans to attack Iran in response for its drone strike, adding it had “authorised operational plans for both offensive and defensive action”, although no further details were given.</p>
<p><a href="https://inews.co.uk/news/biden-warns-israel-us-not-support-iran-counteroffensive-3006035?ico=in-line_link" rel="nofollow ugc">https://inews.co.uk/news/biden-warns-israel-us-not-support-iran-counteroffensive-3006035?ico=in-line_link</a></p>
<p>&#8220;Mr Guterres also said at the meeting, which was held at Israel’s request, that **Iran had written to the president of the security council and said the attack was defensive after an Israeli airstrike destroyed its consulate in Damascus, Syria on April 1.</p>
<p>He also pointed out that ***“the charter of the United Nations prohibits the use of force against the territorial integrity or political independence of any state”, adding attacks on diplomatic premises are not allowed***&#8221;</p>
<p>It was Israel that initiated by striking Iran&#8217;s diplomatic premises but still Israel persists</p>
<p>&#8220;Mr Guterres’ remarks come after Israel’s a military spokesman Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari earlier suggested that the country has drawn up plans to attack Iran in response to an overnight drone assault on Saturday night after the country’s war cabinet held a meeting.</p>
<p>Mr Hagari said the cabinet had authorised operational plans for both offensive and defensive action in response to Iran’s drone and missile attack on Saturday night.&#8221;</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2024 20:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[It&#039;s an interesting read-
He&#039;s claiming that a new more virulent strain of Covid is in the making
-With each new wave of vaccine breakthrough infections, viral transmission slows down as a result of immune refocusing
- The delayed emergence of a Coronavirus lineage capable of causing &#039;vaccine breakthrough trans infections&#039; facilitates prolonged viral spread, thereby fostering the training of innate immunity in the unvaccinated portion of highly Covid-19 (C-19) vaccinated populations.
-As successive immune refocusing events occur—transitioning from neutralizing antibodies (Abs) to infection-inhibiting Abs, and then to cellular productivity-inhibiting cytotoxic T lymphocyte (CTL) responses—viral transmission is delayed, providing additional time for the unvaccinated segment of the population to train their cell-mediated innate immunity (via epigenetic reprogramming of Natural Killer cells, which effectively target and eliminate pathologically altered host cells at an early stage of infection)
The unvaccinated are going to be able to fend this onslaught off better than the vaccinated?

-There is little doubt, therefore, that the rising temperatures in the coming months will spur the emergence of a new CoV lineage capable of causing enhanced severe disease in highly C-19 vaccinated populations. Hence, contrary to expectations of a fall or winter occurrence, this phenomenon is likely to unfold pretty soon as temperatures begin to significantly rise!

I shudder at the thought because family members I dearly love opted to vaccinate themselves- How I wish they hadn&#039;t :(]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s an interesting read-<br />
He&#8217;s claiming that a new more virulent strain of Covid is in the making<br />
-With each new wave of vaccine breakthrough infections, viral transmission slows down as a result of immune refocusing<br />
&#8211; The delayed emergence of a Coronavirus lineage capable of causing &#8216;vaccine breakthrough trans infections&#8217; facilitates prolonged viral spread, thereby fostering the training of innate immunity in the unvaccinated portion of highly Covid-19 (C-19) vaccinated populations.<br />
-As successive immune refocusing events occur—transitioning from neutralizing antibodies (Abs) to infection-inhibiting Abs, and then to cellular productivity-inhibiting cytotoxic T lymphocyte (CTL) responses—viral transmission is delayed, providing additional time for the unvaccinated segment of the population to train their cell-mediated innate immunity (via epigenetic reprogramming of Natural Killer cells, which effectively target and eliminate pathologically altered host cells at an early stage of infection)<br />
The unvaccinated are going to be able to fend this onslaught off better than the vaccinated?</p>
<p>-There is little doubt, therefore, that the rising temperatures in the coming months will spur the emergence of a new CoV lineage capable of causing enhanced severe disease in highly C-19 vaccinated populations. Hence, contrary to expectations of a fall or winter occurrence, this phenomenon is likely to unfold pretty soon as temperatures begin to significantly rise!</p>
<p>I shudder at the thought because family members I dearly love opted to vaccinate themselves- How I wish they hadn&#8217;t 🙁</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 14 Apr 2024 16:59:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[@Penny on some other news. Have you seen the latest expectation with regards to covid ? https://www.voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/scientific-blog/society-in-highly-c-19-vaccinated-countries-will-be-caught-off-guard]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Penny on some other news. Have you seen the latest expectation with regards to covid ? <a href="https://www.voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/scientific-blog/society-in-highly-c-19-vaccinated-countries-will-be-caught-off-guard" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.voiceforscienceandsolidarity.org/scientific-blog/society-in-highly-c-19-vaccinated-countries-will-be-caught-off-guard</a></p>
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