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		By: penny2		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2024/04/06/the-united-states-and-israel-are-coming-apart/#comment-3909&quot;&gt;Mark Finnegan&lt;/a&gt;.

On your first paragraph, hope your correct that the Israeli&#039;s will be forced to accept concessions, Ukraine should ready itself for concessions as well, because both countries are waging chosen warfare over  necessary warfare, IMO. Israel had options to get the hostages, but, that was not the goal, not really.
Ukraine should have just stopped killing the residents in the east and stuck to their earlier agreements- but, nope. 
I see Ukraine as being more used by western powers than Israel, though. The attack on Gaza,though the US is mostly silent, was Israel&#039;s choice.

As for Lebanon? Neither the US or Israel should be bombing that nation or Syria- It&#039;s time for the US to leave Syria, and take their PKK proxies with them- Or back to the EU.
I&#039;m not going to think about the Samson option either-]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2024/04/06/the-united-states-and-israel-are-coming-apart/#comment-3909">Mark Finnegan</a>.</p>
<p>On your first paragraph, hope your correct that the Israeli&#8217;s will be forced to accept concessions, Ukraine should ready itself for concessions as well, because both countries are waging chosen warfare over  necessary warfare, IMO. Israel had options to get the hostages, but, that was not the goal, not really.<br />
Ukraine should have just stopped killing the residents in the east and stuck to their earlier agreements- but, nope.<br />
I see Ukraine as being more used by western powers than Israel, though. The attack on Gaza,though the US is mostly silent, was Israel&#8217;s choice.</p>
<p>As for Lebanon? Neither the US or Israel should be bombing that nation or Syria- It&#8217;s time for the US to leave Syria, and take their PKK proxies with them- Or back to the EU.<br />
I&#8217;m not going to think about the Samson option either-</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Penny,
I&#039;m thinking it&#039;s come to a point where it is not so much about the bluster in what Israeli leaders say, or about the country&#039;s long standing policy of conquest, apartheid and ethnic cleansing, it&#039;s what the Israelis will be forced to accept. While the Israeli politicians might be psychopathic enough to try and give the orders to invade Lebanon the conscript IDF ground forces will not co-operate and would recoil at the first sign of inevitable serious losses. The air force would strike but the retaliation would be brutal, and Israel cannot sustain guided missile strikes on it&#039;s territory. Faced with real military opposition the settlers would retreat and revise their biblical dreams of God granted territories.
The US, amidst a desperate election year, might be forced to bomb Beirut, create carnage and kill civilians, but Hezbollah would survive. A quick cease fire would ensue. The Americans would not commit ground troops until after the explosions subsided and then only to facilitate the evacuation of dual US/Israeli
citizens. 
I suppose Israel would still have it&#039;s &quot;Samson&quot; nuclear option but I can&#039;t bear to speculate about such an outcome.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Penny,<br />
I&#8217;m thinking it&#8217;s come to a point where it is not so much about the bluster in what Israeli leaders say, or about the country&#8217;s long standing policy of conquest, apartheid and ethnic cleansing, it&#8217;s what the Israelis will be forced to accept. While the Israeli politicians might be psychopathic enough to try and give the orders to invade Lebanon the conscript IDF ground forces will not co-operate and would recoil at the first sign of inevitable serious losses. The air force would strike but the retaliation would be brutal, and Israel cannot sustain guided missile strikes on it&#8217;s territory. Faced with real military opposition the settlers would retreat and revise their biblical dreams of God granted territories.<br />
The US, amidst a desperate election year, might be forced to bomb Beirut, create carnage and kill civilians, but Hezbollah would survive. A quick cease fire would ensue. The Americans would not commit ground troops until after the explosions subsided and then only to facilitate the evacuation of dual US/Israeli<br />
citizens.<br />
I suppose Israel would still have it&#8217;s &#8220;Samson&#8221; nuclear option but I can&#8217;t bear to speculate about such an outcome.</p>
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