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title: "“Ukraine on Verge of Losing Avdiivka”  Is it already lost?"
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**Thinking about reality vs the presentation.** **Just reading the piece below it’s pretty clear Avdiivka is lost to the Ukrainians, barring anything spectacular or unexpected.**

[Washington Post](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2024/02/15/ukraine-avdiivka-oleksandr-syrsky-russia/)

> The ruined coke and chemical plant, once an economic pillar in Ukraine’s eastern Donbas region, is likely to be the last Ukrainian stronghold in Avdiivka, which has been embattled since 2014. **Ukrainian troops say it is just a matter of time before they will have to surrender the city, and on Thursday the military said forces had already pulled back from some positions as the Russians have begun advancing rapidly.**

> Capturing Avdiivka would mark Moscow’s most significant battlefield victory since the failure of a Ukrainian counteroffensive last year — and would be the clearest sign yet that Russian forces are regaining the initiative as **Kyiv runs short of soldiers, weapons, ammunition, morale and money.**

> ***“It all comes down to logistics,”*** said Serhiy, 41, an infantry platoon commander with Ukraine’s 53rd Brigade fighting in the area. ***“Roads, interchanges, everything: A lot of logistics is tied up in the streets of Avdiivka.”***

**My understanding is that the streets are tied up. No resupplying. Retreat. Surrender. Or die.**

> Russia captured Bakhmut in May. Ukraine’s military and political leadership said continuing to defend Bakhmut cost Russia tens of thousands of casualties. **But the battle also depleted Ukraine’s forces**

**Bakhmut depleted Ukraine’s forces- Oddly enough that had been presented time and time again as a stroke of genius battle.**

**Most recently in the article embedded in the relinked report**

> ***keeping the Russians physically and psychologically committed to a battle of attrition for such a meagre prize may have been a masterstroke.***

> [Syrskyi the butcher?](https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2024/02/09/syrskyi-the-butcher/)



**Masterstroke? To lose all those Ukrainians for such a meagre prize**

> **By Wednesday, the road Alpha used to get to the plant was under Russian fire control.**

**From what I’ve read today, Thursday, Avdiivka is lost**