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		By: Evidence &#8220;suggests&#8221; Russia blew Kakhovka dam &#8211; PFYT2		</title>
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		By: penny2		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Jun 2023 00:16:32 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2023/06/08/old-video-of-khakhova-dam-blast-shared-as-recent-fake-news/#comment-2584&quot;&gt;Gimlet Eye&lt;/a&gt;.

Hey Gimlet Eye:
Thanks for the extra comment- Old cynic or not? Who among us really knows? We just aren&#039;t privy to all that information. So I stick with what I am comfortable saying here-
high water levels, repeated shelling, probable lack of maintenance- an accident waiting to happen!

 Lots on the line for me. I could get shut down again, or.... never mind that&#039;s already occurred really- marginalization on line is happening-
Oh well, I&#039;ve always liked the challenge :)
Good night Gimlet- I think, my old friend. I think? :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2023/06/08/old-video-of-khakhova-dam-blast-shared-as-recent-fake-news/#comment-2584">Gimlet Eye</a>.</p>
<p>Hey Gimlet Eye:<br />
Thanks for the extra comment- Old cynic or not? Who among us really knows? We just aren&#8217;t privy to all that information. So I stick with what I am comfortable saying here-<br />
high water levels, repeated shelling, probable lack of maintenance- an accident waiting to happen!</p>
<p> Lots on the line for me. I could get shut down again, or&#8230;. never mind that&#8217;s already occurred really- marginalization on line is happening-<br />
Oh well, I&#8217;ve always liked the challenge 🙂<br />
Good night Gimlet- I think, my old friend. I think? 🙂</p>
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		By: Gimlet Eye		</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Gimlet Eye]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Jun 2023 08:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2023/06/08/old-video-of-khakhova-dam-blast-shared-as-recent-fake-news/#comment-2581&quot;&gt;penny2&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;If I’m reading your comment correctly- the dam hasn’t been under Russian control since Feb 22?&quot;

No - supposedly its under their jurisdiction but they have either not actively controlled it or have controlled it such a way as to allow the level to rise well above normal. From the same site you can see the level in the upstream lake has been maintained without anomaly.

Some of the early reports said there was no explosion and that the dam had failed due to high water level and repeated shelling. So why the high water level, unless you want to make the situation worse? Looks suspicious to me, but then I&#039;m an old cynic.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2023/06/08/old-video-of-khakhova-dam-blast-shared-as-recent-fake-news/#comment-2581">penny2</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;If I’m reading your comment correctly- the dam hasn’t been under Russian control since Feb 22?&#8221;</p>
<p>No &#8211; supposedly its under their jurisdiction but they have either not actively controlled it or have controlled it such a way as to allow the level to rise well above normal. From the same site you can see the level in the upstream lake has been maintained without anomaly.</p>
<p>Some of the early reports said there was no explosion and that the dam had failed due to high water level and repeated shelling. So why the high water level, unless you want to make the situation worse? Looks suspicious to me, but then I&#8217;m an old cynic.</p>
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		By: penny2		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2023 12:19:15 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2023/06/08/old-video-of-khakhova-dam-blast-shared-as-recent-fake-news/#comment-2580&quot;&gt;Gimlet Eye&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Gimlet
I understand Ukraine had a super rainy spring? More than usual? Less than usual? I don&#039;t know. But there appeared to be a lot of rain, more than usual, because at one time the Ukrainians actually claimed Russia was the reason for the excess rain? 
I&#039;m not up on weather modification to even know if this is possible over an extended period of time.  (cloud seeding)
If I&#039;m reading your comment correctly- the dam hasn&#039;t been under Russian control since Feb 22? 
I don&#039;t know about the sluice gates and who has or hasn&#039;t had them open or closed?

It&#039;s okay to be an old cynic :)
I do my best with what I know and in this case it&#039;s easy enough to conclude repeated attacks on the dam could have weakened the structure enough for it to simply fail.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2023/06/08/old-video-of-khakhova-dam-blast-shared-as-recent-fake-news/#comment-2580">Gimlet Eye</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Gimlet<br />
I understand Ukraine had a super rainy spring? More than usual? Less than usual? I don&#8217;t know. But there appeared to be a lot of rain, more than usual, because at one time the Ukrainians actually claimed Russia was the reason for the excess rain?<br />
I&#8217;m not up on weather modification to even know if this is possible over an extended period of time.  (cloud seeding)<br />
If I&#8217;m reading your comment correctly- the dam hasn&#8217;t been under Russian control since Feb 22?<br />
I don&#8217;t know about the sluice gates and who has or hasn&#8217;t had them open or closed?</p>
<p>It&#8217;s okay to be an old cynic 🙂<br />
I do my best with what I know and in this case it&#8217;s easy enough to conclude repeated attacks on the dam could have weakened the structure enough for it to simply fail.</p>
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		By: Gimlet Eye		</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Jun 2023 07:19:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Penny, you might want to ponder the water level-
Lake Kakhovka 
https://hydroweb.theia-land.fr/hydroweb/view/L_kakhovka?lang=en
change the start date to zoom-in as required

So the dam is in Russian control, from Dec&#039;21 to Feb&#039;22 there was a noticeable lowering of water level then from Feb&#039;22 to date the level was made (by whom?) to increase to 2m above normal.

Have the Russians had the sluice gates fully open for months to try and control the level and the system has been over loaded or have they allowed the level to rise above normal and if so why?

Being an old cynic I tend to think we are seeing the old good cop / bad cop routine.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Penny, you might want to ponder the water level-<br />
Lake Kakhovka<br />
<a href="https://hydroweb.theia-land.fr/hydroweb/view/L_kakhovka?lang=en" rel="nofollow ugc">https://hydroweb.theia-land.fr/hydroweb/view/L_kakhovka?lang=en</a><br />
change the start date to zoom-in as required</p>
<p>So the dam is in Russian control, from Dec&#8217;21 to Feb&#8217;22 there was a noticeable lowering of water level then from Feb&#8217;22 to date the level was made (by whom?) to increase to 2m above normal.</p>
<p>Have the Russians had the sluice gates fully open for months to try and control the level and the system has been over loaded or have they allowed the level to rise above normal and if so why?</p>
<p>Being an old cynic I tend to think we are seeing the old good cop / bad cop routine.</p>
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		By: penny2		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2023 19:46:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2023/06/08/old-video-of-khakhova-dam-blast-shared-as-recent-fake-news/#comment-2577&quot;&gt;Mark Finnegan&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Mark
Yes, it&#039;s entirely possible that this dam simply failed- due to the endless Ukraine shelling and they&#039;ve  admitted they had lobbed missiles etc at it.
In my previous report which included the link to Washington Post
Then there is the possibility it was a desperate move by Ukraine.
And your thought is very prescient

&quot;Given the failure of the opening phases of the great Ukrainian counter offensive, I would not discount that these actions are some kind of Beserker Götterdämmerung knee jerk reaction by some crazed rogue elements in the loathsome ‘Right Sector’ Banderist regime, aided perhaps by crazed rogue globalist elements in NATO.&quot;

Because the opening salvo of their offensive isn&#039;t going well thus far.
What a mess!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2023/06/08/old-video-of-khakhova-dam-blast-shared-as-recent-fake-news/#comment-2577">Mark Finnegan</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Mark<br />
Yes, it&#8217;s entirely possible that this dam simply failed- due to the endless Ukraine shelling and they&#8217;ve  admitted they had lobbed missiles etc at it.<br />
In my previous report which included the link to Washington Post<br />
Then there is the possibility it was a desperate move by Ukraine.<br />
And your thought is very prescient</p>
<p>&#8220;Given the failure of the opening phases of the great Ukrainian counter offensive, I would not discount that these actions are some kind of Beserker Götterdämmerung knee jerk reaction by some crazed rogue elements in the loathsome ‘Right Sector’ Banderist regime, aided perhaps by crazed rogue globalist elements in NATO.&#8221;</p>
<p>Because the opening salvo of their offensive isn&#8217;t going well thus far.<br />
What a mess!</p>
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		By: Mark Finnegan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Jun 2023 19:07:51 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi  Penny,
I too have been looking for conclusive  video evidence of what caused the catastrophic collapse of the dam. I was temporarily fooled by the same images you posted till it was shown to be old footage from Nov. 2022. The Ukrainians have bragged about shelling the structure repeatedly with U.S. supplied HIMARS rocket artillery and  I have seen reports that they did so as recently as June 3rd. The dam certainly could have failed structurally due to prior weakening and record  high water levels in the reservoir behind it.
What escapes me is the &#039;why&#039;. Neither side clearly prospers from  this   ecological disaster. The Ukrainians now have need for a massive evacuation in Kherson and they now face a more substantial and  exposed amphibian assault for any move southward. The Russian front defensive line has been swamped ( they have secondary and tertiary fortifications ) and the fresh water supply to the Crimea has been lessened. The whole affair seems devoid of any coherent strategic value.
While the sophisticated sabotage of the Nordstream 2 pipeline with its obvious economic results demonstrate high level NATO  advantages (at least for the Americans) other actions such as the pin prick drone attacks on the Kremlin, the constant shelling of civilian targets around Belgorod and the dam attack seem born out of Ukrainian nonsensical desperation. Given the failure of the opening phases of the great Ukrainian counter offensive, I would not discount that these actions are some kind of Beserker Götterdämmerung knee jerk reaction by some crazed rogue elements in the loathsome &#039;Right Sector&#039; Banderist  regime, aided perhaps by crazed rogue globalist elements in NATO.
I can easily imagine that Biden and Milley, Sunak, Macron and Stoltenberg are being informed of events in morning briefings copied and pasted from overnight Reuters pronouncements.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi  Penny,<br />
I too have been looking for conclusive  video evidence of what caused the catastrophic collapse of the dam. I was temporarily fooled by the same images you posted till it was shown to be old footage from Nov. 2022. The Ukrainians have bragged about shelling the structure repeatedly with U.S. supplied HIMARS rocket artillery and  I have seen reports that they did so as recently as June 3rd. The dam certainly could have failed structurally due to prior weakening and record  high water levels in the reservoir behind it.<br />
What escapes me is the &#8216;why&#8217;. Neither side clearly prospers from  this   ecological disaster. The Ukrainians now have need for a massive evacuation in Kherson and they now face a more substantial and  exposed amphibian assault for any move southward. The Russian front defensive line has been swamped ( they have secondary and tertiary fortifications ) and the fresh water supply to the Crimea has been lessened. The whole affair seems devoid of any coherent strategic value.<br />
While the sophisticated sabotage of the Nordstream 2 pipeline with its obvious economic results demonstrate high level NATO  advantages (at least for the Americans) other actions such as the pin prick drone attacks on the Kremlin, the constant shelling of civilian targets around Belgorod and the dam attack seem born out of Ukrainian nonsensical desperation. Given the failure of the opening phases of the great Ukrainian counter offensive, I would not discount that these actions are some kind of Beserker Götterdämmerung knee jerk reaction by some crazed rogue elements in the loathsome &#8216;Right Sector&#8217; Banderist  regime, aided perhaps by crazed rogue globalist elements in NATO.<br />
I can easily imagine that Biden and Milley, Sunak, Macron and Stoltenberg are being informed of events in morning briefings copied and pasted from overnight Reuters pronouncements.</p>
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