Comments on: Putin Scores a Win in Turkey’s Election? https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2023/05/30/putin-scores-a-win-in-turkeys-election/ Truth Exists: Lies Are Made Up Tue, 30 May 2023 22:01:26 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=7.0.2 By: penny2 https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2023/05/30/putin-scores-a-win-in-turkeys-election/#comment-2535 Tue, 30 May 2023 22:01:26 +0000 https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/?p=4347#comment-2535 In reply to penny2.

I recall Bush and Gore very well- Gore conceded because he was all set to profiteer off the carbon scam so why not?
He was going to be the first carbon billionaire- I recall the reports, and have linked one below

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/earth/energy/6491195/Al-Gore-could-become-worlds-first-carbon-billionaire.html

Yet another example of prime perception managing

]]> By: penny2 https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2023/05/30/putin-scores-a-win-in-turkeys-election/#comment-2534 Tue, 30 May 2023 22:00:17 +0000 https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/?p=4347#comment-2534 In reply to Mark Finnegan.

Mark, it is a righteous indignation.
I drew attention to the manipulative language because it’s so pervasive in our media, done to persuade, rather than inform.

A well chosen word can alter entirely the meaning of a sentence.
Glad some of us are aware of it!

]]> By: Mark Finnegan https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2023/05/30/putin-scores-a-win-in-turkeys-election/#comment-2533 Tue, 30 May 2023 15:59:41 +0000 https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/?p=4347#comment-2533 Hi Penny,
You’d think I’d be used to it by now, but I am still often “triggered” by the arrogance, dishonesty and superiority complex that permeates ‘western’ press coverage. Erdogan did not “claim victory”, he was legally proclaimed the victor by whatever constitutional ‘electoral college’ apparatus they have there. This after a one day counting process apparently without substantial disruption or malfeasance, which was able to report seemingly consistent and uncontested hourly polling updates. The loser conceded publicly, leaving the Turkish people, to whatever large or small extent, with a sense of electoral closure; a renewal of the democratic ideal. It produced a clear mandate.
This is as opposed to what elections bring to politically under-
developed countries such as the USA where ‘counting’ dragged on for turbulent weeks, the loser never conceded, large swaths of the population believed in vote fraud all to eventually result in no clear mandate, no sense of electoral closure or spirit of democratic renewal. And the latest Biden/Trump pantomime was not the first or I suspect the last U.S. electoral fiasco. I remember well the Bush/Gore shadow boxing in the year 2000 where the corrupt morass of the Florida results lead to tawdry back room deals and the Supreme Court throwing it’s hands in the air, proclaiming that the constitutional outcome was impossible to determine and awarding victory a month later to the faux Texan buffoon.
It’s time for the ‘western’ mainstream media to be subjected to a thorough refresher course in the meaning of democracy, preferably in some kind of Maoist type re-education facility.

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