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		By: Penny		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2023/05/08/woke-totalitarianism-to-end-free-speech-brazil-inc/#comment-2440&quot;&gt;Mark Finnegan&lt;/a&gt;.

&quot;What worries me the most is the all encompassing acceptance of the internet as the sole means of societal communication.&quot;

I&#039;m going to agree with you on that, though I do communicate via the internet through my site. This site.
I&#039;ve already experienced the censorship first hand when google took away the blog I&#039;d had since 08- Allegedly for violating &quot;community standards&quot;  I never knew what my violation was- what &quot;community standard&quot; had been violated. No one ever communicated with me about what ever it was- I have initiated a number of requests to get my old site back and publicly accessible- to no avail.
At the same time I realize it is not the sole or only form of communication and as my husband says about me &quot; I talk to everyone&quot;
And am known to be an active meme bomber in public (drop thoughtful tidbits into conversations, intentionally)
On line discourse is convenient in  some ways and very inconvenient in other ways- as for the education system- don&#039;t even get me started on that!
It should more accurately be called the &quot;edu-indoctrination system&quot; That&#039;s all it is. That&#039;s all it&#039;s become. I think that was inevitable given the roots of it&#039;s early beginnings.

I agree with this
&quot;Censorship is a last ditch move by regimes that lack legitimacy, as they try, in desperation, to hold back the irresistible tide of public opinion.&quot;

In Canada, not sure if you&#039;d agree, but my opinion, it was the convoy and covid challengers that showed the Trudeau regime he didn&#039;t have legitimacy and this move again by the Trudeau regime is a an act of desperation.

I&#039;m citing the Trudeau regime because they are the power at this time. Can&#039;t say if it would&#039;ve been different with another government? And it makes no difference. The Trudeau regime is the tyranny. And it&#039;s tenuous hold on power has made this censorship a must. At least here in Canada- But we can many others are following suit. Many so called democratic and dare I call them &quot;leftist&quot; parties.
Biden, Trudeau, Lula (who was supposed to be some kind of hero)

It is going to be a very interesting ride, for sure! In the end people like you, me and the readers here will be okay. I&#039;m confident. 
Because we&#039;ve already forced their reaction-by challenging their illegitimate authority-  That suggests to me we hold the upper hand.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2023/05/08/woke-totalitarianism-to-end-free-speech-brazil-inc/#comment-2440">Mark Finnegan</a>.</p>
<p>&#8220;What worries me the most is the all encompassing acceptance of the internet as the sole means of societal communication.&#8221;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m going to agree with you on that, though I do communicate via the internet through my site. This site.<br />
I&#8217;ve already experienced the censorship first hand when google took away the blog I&#8217;d had since 08- Allegedly for violating &#8220;community standards&#8221;  I never knew what my violation was- what &#8220;community standard&#8221; had been violated. No one ever communicated with me about what ever it was- I have initiated a number of requests to get my old site back and publicly accessible- to no avail.<br />
At the same time I realize it is not the sole or only form of communication and as my husband says about me &#8221; I talk to everyone&#8221;<br />
And am known to be an active meme bomber in public (drop thoughtful tidbits into conversations, intentionally)<br />
On line discourse is convenient in  some ways and very inconvenient in other ways- as for the education system- don&#8217;t even get me started on that!<br />
It should more accurately be called the &#8220;edu-indoctrination system&#8221; That&#8217;s all it is. That&#8217;s all it&#8217;s become. I think that was inevitable given the roots of it&#8217;s early beginnings.</p>
<p>I agree with this<br />
&#8220;Censorship is a last ditch move by regimes that lack legitimacy, as they try, in desperation, to hold back the irresistible tide of public opinion.&#8221;</p>
<p>In Canada, not sure if you&#8217;d agree, but my opinion, it was the convoy and covid challengers that showed the Trudeau regime he didn&#8217;t have legitimacy and this move again by the Trudeau regime is a an act of desperation.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m citing the Trudeau regime because they are the power at this time. Can&#8217;t say if it would&#8217;ve been different with another government? And it makes no difference. The Trudeau regime is the tyranny. And it&#8217;s tenuous hold on power has made this censorship a must. At least here in Canada- But we can many others are following suit. Many so called democratic and dare I call them &#8220;leftist&#8221; parties.<br />
Biden, Trudeau, Lula (who was supposed to be some kind of hero)</p>
<p>It is going to be a very interesting ride, for sure! In the end people like you, me and the readers here will be okay. I&#8217;m confident.<br />
Because we&#8217;ve already forced their reaction-by challenging their illegitimate authority-  That suggests to me we hold the upper hand.</p>
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		By: Mark Finnegan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 09 May 2023 01:37:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Penny,
Censorship is a last ditch move by regimes that lack legitimacy, as they try, in desperation, to hold back the irresistible tide of public opinion.
OK...Ok...so most regimes lack &#039;legitimacy&#039; so there have always been attempts at censorship. The Vatican tried to silence the &#039;modern science&#039; of Galileo and Copernicus but still the &quot;Enlightenment&quot; happened. Those same Catholics tried to persecute heresy and it only resulted in Martin Luther and the Protestants. (catchy moniker). We tried to censor everything erotic and now we wallow knee deep in all access pornography. The more radical/extreme the regime is, the more pervasive the censorship, but even Hitler and Stalin had trouble stopping the spread of radio waves and the tangible printed word.

What worries me the most is the all encompassing acceptance of the internet as the sole means of societal communication. That and the resulting intellectual laziness brought on by digital convenience and education system failures. It seems like &#039;word of mouth&#039; it&#039;ll have to be as we let ourselves get hopelessly entangled in the web of political censorship. However, uninformed and desperate localized &#039;word of mouth&#039; often leads to more violent and disjointed revolutions.   
&quot;Strap yourself in, it&#039;s gonna be a bumpy ride.&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Penny,<br />
Censorship is a last ditch move by regimes that lack legitimacy, as they try, in desperation, to hold back the irresistible tide of public opinion.<br />
OK&#8230;Ok&#8230;so most regimes lack &#8216;legitimacy&#8217; so there have always been attempts at censorship. The Vatican tried to silence the &#8216;modern science&#8217; of Galileo and Copernicus but still the &#8220;Enlightenment&#8221; happened. Those same Catholics tried to persecute heresy and it only resulted in Martin Luther and the Protestants. (catchy moniker). We tried to censor everything erotic and now we wallow knee deep in all access pornography. The more radical/extreme the regime is, the more pervasive the censorship, but even Hitler and Stalin had trouble stopping the spread of radio waves and the tangible printed word.</p>
<p>What worries me the most is the all encompassing acceptance of the internet as the sole means of societal communication. That and the resulting intellectual laziness brought on by digital convenience and education system failures. It seems like &#8216;word of mouth&#8217; it&#8217;ll have to be as we let ourselves get hopelessly entangled in the web of political censorship. However, uninformed and desperate localized &#8216;word of mouth&#8217; often leads to more violent and disjointed revolutions.<br />
&#8220;Strap yourself in, it&#8217;s gonna be a bumpy ride.&#8221;</p>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 08 May 2023 20:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[the censorship is already beginning

https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/meta-has-team-working-to-block-news-on-facebook-instagram-from-canadian-users-1.6389325

Meta has team working to block news on Facebook, Instagram from Canadian users

&quot;So if we are being asked to compensate news publishers for material that has no economic value to us, that&#039;s where the problem is.&quot;

This worries me, being asked to compensate publishers for sharing the news for discussion and educational purposes. I feel it&#039;s educational. I learn. I hope you learn. I learn from the commenters!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>the censorship is already beginning</p>
<p><a href="https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/meta-has-team-working-to-block-news-on-facebook-instagram-from-canadian-users-1.6389325" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.ctvnews.ca/politics/meta-has-team-working-to-block-news-on-facebook-instagram-from-canadian-users-1.6389325</a></p>
<p>Meta has team working to block news on Facebook, Instagram from Canadian users</p>
<p>&#8220;So if we are being asked to compensate news publishers for material that has no economic value to us, that&#8217;s where the problem is.&#8221;</p>
<p>This worries me, being asked to compensate publishers for sharing the news for discussion and educational purposes. I feel it&#8217;s educational. I learn. I hope you learn. I learn from the commenters!</p>
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