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		By: Mark Finnegan		</title>
		<link>https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2023/04/08/the-pentagon-document-leak-originated-in-ukraine/#comment-2305</link>

		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Mark Finnegan]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Apr 2023 16:02:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Penny,
Coffee and quiet Sunday mornings are good. Among the bountiful blessings of relative peace and relative prosperity. Get to walk the dog, let him terrorize the squirrels, watch as the spring birds squawk at his excited antics .]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Penny,<br />
Coffee and quiet Sunday mornings are good. Among the bountiful blessings of relative peace and relative prosperity. Get to walk the dog, let him terrorize the squirrels, watch as the spring birds squawk at his excited antics .</p>
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		By: penny2		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Apr 2023 12:18:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2023/04/08/the-pentagon-document-leak-originated-in-ukraine/#comment-2302&quot;&gt;Mark Finnegan&lt;/a&gt;.

Good Morning Mark!
Ah, a quiet morning with my cup of coffee.. 
I like Easter, it&#039;s synonymous with the rebirth of spring- Even in the Christian sense-  It&#039;s a good  holiday. 

But, back to Ukraine.

I realize what is written is just best guess based on the information I can access. Not best guess that&#039;s not quite right. I went over tons of scenarios before writing this post- From the perspective of the US, Ukraine and Russia.
First thought that came to me was the US leaked these documents to claim Russia had infiltrated, hacked or somehow gained access to their intelligence apparatus to demonize Russia and justify some sort of big move.
Then went through Russia possibly being the leaker and what their angle might be

But finally settled on what made the  most sense to me based on the reports from varying media sources- that the leak came from Ukrainian sources.

That said I do think these are legitimate documents- 
Why?
Well, what I&#039;ve read so far
And I notice the paucity of news coverage. I&#039;d have expected this leak to play a bigger role in the week end news coverage. It hasn&#039;t.  Not that I&#039;ve seen.
I&#039;ll add a bit more info to a newer report some time today-]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2023/04/08/the-pentagon-document-leak-originated-in-ukraine/#comment-2302">Mark Finnegan</a>.</p>
<p>Good Morning Mark!<br />
Ah, a quiet morning with my cup of coffee..<br />
I like Easter, it&#8217;s synonymous with the rebirth of spring- Even in the Christian sense-  It&#8217;s a good  holiday. </p>
<p>But, back to Ukraine.</p>
<p>I realize what is written is just best guess based on the information I can access. Not best guess that&#8217;s not quite right. I went over tons of scenarios before writing this post- From the perspective of the US, Ukraine and Russia.<br />
First thought that came to me was the US leaked these documents to claim Russia had infiltrated, hacked or somehow gained access to their intelligence apparatus to demonize Russia and justify some sort of big move.<br />
Then went through Russia possibly being the leaker and what their angle might be</p>
<p>But finally settled on what made the  most sense to me based on the reports from varying media sources- that the leak came from Ukrainian sources.</p>
<p>That said I do think these are legitimate documents-<br />
Why?<br />
Well, what I&#8217;ve read so far<br />
And I notice the paucity of news coverage. I&#8217;d have expected this leak to play a bigger role in the week end news coverage. It hasn&#8217;t.  Not that I&#8217;ve seen.<br />
I&#8217;ll add a bit more info to a newer report some time today-</p>
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		By: Mark Finnegan		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Apr 2023 01:47:26 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Penny,
My eyes always gloss over when confronted with casualty figures publicized by belligerents, and make no mistake the US and NATO are belligerents. Mark Milley has ample reason to lie to his government, his allies, his own people and likely even to himself. The same can be said about Zelensky and the Russians. ( Ursula von der Leyen might have less use for creative accounting.) The truth will not come out till someone surrenders or is eradicated and even then it must be served up with a heavy dose of salt from the mines of Bakhmut /  Artemovsk . You are no doubt correct in assuming that there are elements in the Ukrainian armed forces that want to get rid of Zelensky to end the killing in negotiations with Moscow. As to the veracity of the &#039;leaked&#039; documents or their origin I am in no position to hypothesize. There are leaks all over the Ukrainian side from everyone with &quot;click bait&quot;, a cell phone and  convenient Starlink connectivity. Ukrainian &#039;offensive plans&#039; can be accurately assumed by anyone with some knowledge of the weapons systems involved and access to any number of freely accessed troop disposition maps. In that respect the &quot;fog of war&quot; has lifted above the blood soaked fields of the Ukraine which have suffered so many times before.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Penny,<br />
My eyes always gloss over when confronted with casualty figures publicized by belligerents, and make no mistake the US and NATO are belligerents. Mark Milley has ample reason to lie to his government, his allies, his own people and likely even to himself. The same can be said about Zelensky and the Russians. ( Ursula von der Leyen might have less use for creative accounting.) The truth will not come out till someone surrenders or is eradicated and even then it must be served up with a heavy dose of salt from the mines of Bakhmut /  Artemovsk . You are no doubt correct in assuming that there are elements in the Ukrainian armed forces that want to get rid of Zelensky to end the killing in negotiations with Moscow. As to the veracity of the &#8216;leaked&#8217; documents or their origin I am in no position to hypothesize. There are leaks all over the Ukrainian side from everyone with &#8220;click bait&#8221;, a cell phone and  convenient Starlink connectivity. Ukrainian &#8216;offensive plans&#8217; can be accurately assumed by anyone with some knowledge of the weapons systems involved and access to any number of freely accessed troop disposition maps. In that respect the &#8220;fog of war&#8221; has lifted above the blood soaked fields of the Ukraine which have suffered so many times before.</p>
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