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		By: Mark Finnegan		</title>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Penny,
Thanks for the two links, interesting stuff. They show how the US domination of Europe goes back to the imperialistic dreams of the immediate post WW2 period and meld into the era of direct and violent internal interventions carried out by odious Gladio thugs. Talk about &#039;electoral interference&#039; .
 From the &quot;Bush Image of Europe&quot;  article : &quot;The Alliance (NATO) has ensured the security of its members in the past. (There was no threat) Today, it provides security guarantees in light of new threats such as AIDS, drug trafficking, environmental degradation and the proliferation of arms of mass destruction . (Well from the perch of today&#039;s view NATO hasn&#039;t been very successful at those stated goals. From &quot;stopping arms proliferation&quot; to training and massively arming proxy belligerents).
It&#039;s kinda ironic that Putin&#039;s goal of &#039;de-nazification&#039; following victory in the Ukraine will look much like the US efforts at &#039;de-militarization&#039;  in Japan in 1946 . That same de-militarization&#039; we are trying to reverse now in Europe and Japan.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Penny,<br />
Thanks for the two links, interesting stuff. They show how the US domination of Europe goes back to the imperialistic dreams of the immediate post WW2 period and meld into the era of direct and violent internal interventions carried out by odious Gladio thugs. Talk about &#8216;electoral interference&#8217; .<br />
 From the &#8220;Bush Image of Europe&#8221;  article : &#8220;The Alliance (NATO) has ensured the security of its members in the past. (There was no threat) Today, it provides security guarantees in light of new threats such as AIDS, drug trafficking, environmental degradation and the proliferation of arms of mass destruction . (Well from the perch of today&#8217;s view NATO hasn&#8217;t been very successful at those stated goals. From &#8220;stopping arms proliferation&#8221; to training and massively arming proxy belligerents).<br />
It&#8217;s kinda ironic that Putin&#8217;s goal of &#8216;de-nazification&#8217; following victory in the Ukraine will look much like the US efforts at &#8216;de-militarization&#8217;  in Japan in 1946 . That same de-militarization&#8217; we are trying to reverse now in Europe and Japan.</p>
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		By: penny2		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2023 12:26:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		By: penny2		</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Apr 2023 12:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Mark!
I&#039;m aware the US  has long had big plans for the subordination of the EU, once fully integrated.

Some years back I&#039;d done an article on the American idea of Europe, Whole, Free and at Peace.
Which really all meant Europe in service of the US/NATO led empire

https://www.rand.org/blog/2008/09/a-europe-whole-and-free-and-at-peace.html

&quot;With the Covid epidemic, the European Union has already invested itself with powers in the field of health that were not foreseen by the Treaties&quot;

I think Covid has tied us into the BLM and Trans movement as well.. while the masses were easily malleable through persuasive fear- the mind control media further influenced them with extreme identity politics

&quot;Strategic Compass&quot;. The idea is to coordinate the pooling of national armies, including intelligence services, in a spirit of integration rather than cooperation&quot;

I can see it.

Interesting about Japan, then and now.
Wondered about the ‘assassination’ not to long ago? I wrote something about that here

&quot;Today’s Ukraine is the only state in the world with an explicitly racist constitution. Adopted in 1996 and revised in 2020, it states in Article 16 that &quot;Preserving the genetic heritage of the Ukrainian people is the responsibility of the state.&quot;
Given the history that’s not surprising to read or difficult to accept that was done
Yes, Israel is on the same footing!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Mark!<br />
I&#8217;m aware the US  has long had big plans for the subordination of the EU, once fully integrated.</p>
<p>Some years back I&#8217;d done an article on the American idea of Europe, Whole, Free and at Peace.<br />
Which really all meant Europe in service of the US/NATO led empire</p>
<p><a href="https://www.rand.org/blog/2008/09/a-europe-whole-and-free-and-at-peace.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.rand.org/blog/2008/09/a-europe-whole-and-free-and-at-peace.html</a></p>
<p>&#8220;With the Covid epidemic, the European Union has already invested itself with powers in the field of health that were not foreseen by the Treaties&#8221;</p>
<p>I think Covid has tied us into the BLM and Trans movement as well.. while the masses were easily malleable through persuasive fear- the mind control media further influenced them with extreme identity politics</p>
<p>&#8220;Strategic Compass&#8221;. The idea is to coordinate the pooling of national armies, including intelligence services, in a spirit of integration rather than cooperation&#8221;</p>
<p>I can see it.</p>
<p>Interesting about Japan, then and now.<br />
Wondered about the ‘assassination’ not to long ago? I wrote something about that here</p>
<p>&#8220;Today’s Ukraine is the only state in the world with an explicitly racist constitution. Adopted in 1996 and revised in 2020, it states in Article 16 that &#8220;Preserving the genetic heritage of the Ukrainian people is the responsibility of the state.&#8221;<br />
Given the history that’s not surprising to read or difficult to accept that was done<br />
Yes, Israel is on the same footing!</p>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 02 Apr 2023 20:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2023/03/31/defeating-russia-is-the-best-way-for-the-west-to-defend-taiwan/#comment-2262&quot;&gt;Mark Finnegan&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Mark
I will definitely read the article tomorrow and share my reaction!!
Thanks for leaving the link :)]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2023/03/31/defeating-russia-is-the-best-way-for-the-west-to-defend-taiwan/#comment-2262">Mark Finnegan</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Mark<br />
I will definitely read the article tomorrow and share my reaction!!<br />
Thanks for leaving the link 🙂</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Hi Penny;
I&#039;d be interested in your reaction to this wide ranging article by Thierry Meyssan. Here are two juicy quotes contained there in :
1.   &quot;...the confinement of healthy civilians to their homes was supposed to allow the identification of jobs that could be relocated, to close down the consumer goods industries in the West and to concentrate the work force in the defense industry.&quot; (wow, it might work out that way. Shades of Klaus Schwab. )
2.   &quot;  Today’s Ukraine is the only state in the world with an explicitly racist constitution. Adopted in 1996 and revised in 2020, it states in Article 16 that &quot;Preserving the genetic heritage of the Ukrainian people is the responsibility of the state.&quot; The widow of the Ukrainian Nazi Prime Minister, Yaroslav Stetsko, wrote this article. &quot; ( I would argue that Israel could be considered in the same category ) 

https://www.voltairenet.org/article219090.html]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Penny;<br />
I&#8217;d be interested in your reaction to this wide ranging article by Thierry Meyssan. Here are two juicy quotes contained there in :<br />
1.   &#8220;&#8230;the confinement of healthy civilians to their homes was supposed to allow the identification of jobs that could be relocated, to close down the consumer goods industries in the West and to concentrate the work force in the defense industry.&#8221; (wow, it might work out that way. Shades of Klaus Schwab. )<br />
2.   &#8221;  Today’s Ukraine is the only state in the world with an explicitly racist constitution. Adopted in 1996 and revised in 2020, it states in Article 16 that &#8220;Preserving the genetic heritage of the Ukrainian people is the responsibility of the state.&#8221; The widow of the Ukrainian Nazi Prime Minister, Yaroslav Stetsko, wrote this article. &#8221; ( I would argue that Israel could be considered in the same category ) </p>
<p><a href="https://www.voltairenet.org/article219090.html" rel="nofollow ugc">https://www.voltairenet.org/article219090.html</a></p>
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		By: penny2		</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Apr 2023 22:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2023/03/31/defeating-russia-is-the-best-way-for-the-west-to-defend-taiwan/#comment-2253&quot;&gt;Mark Finnegan&lt;/a&gt;.

Yah, the sun was beautiful this morning- we saw  2 snakes, 2 butterflies and happily the red wing blackbirds have come back for the summer- 
we got out for an awesome walk and I let the sun shine on my face, it was great!
Then it all went awful and started pouring and got super windy, with lightening. 
Ah, spring. 
On a good note hubby got some beds  prepped in the greenhouse  and will do some cool weather planting tomorrow!
So, yeah to that!!]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2023/03/31/defeating-russia-is-the-best-way-for-the-west-to-defend-taiwan/#comment-2253">Mark Finnegan</a>.</p>
<p>Yah, the sun was beautiful this morning- we saw  2 snakes, 2 butterflies and happily the red wing blackbirds have come back for the summer-<br />
we got out for an awesome walk and I let the sun shine on my face, it was great!<br />
Then it all went awful and started pouring and got super windy, with lightening.<br />
Ah, spring.<br />
On a good note hubby got some beds  prepped in the greenhouse  and will do some cool weather planting tomorrow!<br />
So, yeah to that!!</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Penny,
I guess there was something about the sanctimonious pseudo academic pronouncements regurgitated by the prophets at the &quot;Enterprise Institute&quot; that set off that uncontrolled rant on my part.  I even screwed up my pivotal sentence which should  of course read: 
&quot;  Neither China nor Russia nor anybody else could or would ever try to “invade” America with conventional forces. &quot;  
I feel better this morning, the sun is shining....LOL]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Penny,<br />
I guess there was something about the sanctimonious pseudo academic pronouncements regurgitated by the prophets at the &#8220;Enterprise Institute&#8221; that set off that uncontrolled rant on my part.  I even screwed up my pivotal sentence which should  of course read:<br />
&#8221;  Neither China nor Russia nor anybody else could or would ever try to “invade” America with conventional forces. &#8221;<br />
I feel better this morning, the sun is shining&#8230;.LOL</p>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 01 Apr 2023 11:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2023/03/31/defeating-russia-is-the-best-way-for-the-west-to-defend-taiwan/#comment-2249&quot;&gt;Mark Finnegan&lt;/a&gt;.

Hi Mark
I disagree with the views as well. And perhaps I should have explained why I put the oped here- It&#039;s an insight in to the delusional minds of these think tank thinkers who sadly have influence on decision makers.
But, didn&#039;t because I figured the readers here would understand that innately

&quot; this line of reasoning very dangerous&quot; absolutely!
&quot;China is not a threat to North America’s physical security&quot; - as in they are not going to invade us militarily, I agree

&quot;China is a threat to U.S. economic hegemony and control of the monetary system of international trade&quot; Agree. 

&quot;the threat exists of mutually assured nuclear destruction but that threat has existed my whole life and is not changed by current entanglements.&quot; that&#039;s an unhappy truth to realize this threat has hung over one&#039;s head an entire lifetime 

&quot;The views expressed above, with no mention of negotiation, only serve the military/industrial complex and openly support endless “limited” proxy warfare and needless attrition.&quot;

That&#039;s what jumped out at me the  most. No mention of negotiation. Nothing. Just the continuance of death  and destruction to serve the tyrannical  global leadership of the US and it&#039;s unipolar running of this planet. And so many fail to see the obvious.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2023/03/31/defeating-russia-is-the-best-way-for-the-west-to-defend-taiwan/#comment-2249">Mark Finnegan</a>.</p>
<p>Hi Mark<br />
I disagree with the views as well. And perhaps I should have explained why I put the oped here- It&#8217;s an insight in to the delusional minds of these think tank thinkers who sadly have influence on decision makers.<br />
But, didn&#8217;t because I figured the readers here would understand that innately</p>
<p>&#8221; this line of reasoning very dangerous&#8221; absolutely!<br />
&#8220;China is not a threat to North America’s physical security&#8221; &#8211; as in they are not going to invade us militarily, I agree</p>
<p>&#8220;China is a threat to U.S. economic hegemony and control of the monetary system of international trade&#8221; Agree. </p>
<p>&#8220;the threat exists of mutually assured nuclear destruction but that threat has existed my whole life and is not changed by current entanglements.&#8221; that&#8217;s an unhappy truth to realize this threat has hung over one&#8217;s head an entire lifetime </p>
<p>&#8220;The views expressed above, with no mention of negotiation, only serve the military/industrial complex and openly support endless “limited” proxy warfare and needless attrition.&#8221;</p>
<p>That&#8217;s what jumped out at me the  most. No mention of negotiation. Nothing. Just the continuance of death  and destruction to serve the tyrannical  global leadership of the US and it&#8217;s unipolar running of this planet. And so many fail to see the obvious.</p>
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					<description><![CDATA[Penny,
I disagree with the views expressed in  this American Enterprise Institute Oped and consider this line of reasoning very dangerous. China is not a threat to North America&#039;s physical security. China  is a threat to U.S. economic hegemony and control of the monetary system of international trade. China or Russia or anybody else could or would ever try to &quot;invade&quot; America with conventional forces. Of course the threat exists of mutually assured nuclear destruction but that threat has existed my whole life and is not changed by current entanglements. Similarly, Putin is not interested in the physical occupation of western Europe. The notion that the NATO proxy war is &quot;shredding&quot; Russian ground forces is so delusional as to be  farcical.  The notion that North America could &quot;put industry on a war footing&quot; as was done in WW2 is now impossible after we have de-industrialized and sent much of our manufacturing infra structure off shore. Also modern weapons systems are infinitely more complex and much harder to &quot;ramp up&quot; than they were in the 1940&#039;s. Also our  military can expect no surge in patriotic effort or enlistment. The views expressed above, with no mention of negotiation, only serve the military/industrial complex and openly support endless &quot;limited&quot; proxy warfare and needless attrition.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Penny,<br />
I disagree with the views expressed in  this American Enterprise Institute Oped and consider this line of reasoning very dangerous. China is not a threat to North America&#8217;s physical security. China  is a threat to U.S. economic hegemony and control of the monetary system of international trade. China or Russia or anybody else could or would ever try to &#8220;invade&#8221; America with conventional forces. Of course the threat exists of mutually assured nuclear destruction but that threat has existed my whole life and is not changed by current entanglements. Similarly, Putin is not interested in the physical occupation of western Europe. The notion that the NATO proxy war is &#8220;shredding&#8221; Russian ground forces is so delusional as to be  farcical.  The notion that North America could &#8220;put industry on a war footing&#8221; as was done in WW2 is now impossible after we have de-industrialized and sent much of our manufacturing infra structure off shore. Also modern weapons systems are infinitely more complex and much harder to &#8220;ramp up&#8221; than they were in the 1940&#8217;s. Also our  military can expect no surge in patriotic effort or enlistment. The views expressed above, with no mention of negotiation, only serve the military/industrial complex and openly support endless &#8220;limited&#8221; proxy warfare and needless attrition.</p>
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