Comments on: Bloody Bakhmut siege poses risks for Ukraine

By: Kaz

Kaz — Sun, 15 Jan 2023 22:50:09 +0000

In reply to penny2.

The price that I am referring to is. Are the human lives and the relations bound to those lives. The grudges they hold will be directed somewhere. This counts both for Ukrainians and Russians.

Besides this reflecting on the events of the past month. I somehow made the parallels to WW2 where USA with its lend-lease program send material and resources to USSR so it can stay afloat against the Germans and later the USA invaded Nazi Germany in its weakened state.

Now the US army is doing a lot of logistics close to the Ukrainian border. (To assure their allies)

By: penny2

penny2 — Sun, 15 Jan 2023 22:31:13 +0000

In reply to Kaz.

Hi Kaz
I’m not sure what you mean by ‘the price that has been paid is too much’ So, I won’t assume anything unless you want to clarify?
I will however say none of this needed to happen. The west was duplicitous (Merkel acknowledged that) When there were options to work this out with realpolitik.. this did not happen.
The US/UK encouraged Ukraine to fight on behalf of NATO- this shouldn’t have happened. France has backed off of this stance recently
One thing that could happen is Zelensky could be assassinated by how own crowd.

By: Kaz

Kaz — Sun, 15 Jan 2023 22:09:07 +0000

In reply to Penny. I fear I cannot be that optimistic about the outcome. The price that has been paid is too much.

By: Penny

Penny — Sun, 15 Jan 2023 21:00:56 +0000

In reply to Kaz.

Hi Kaz
‘The longer this goes on the higher the chance of a spillover.”

Yes, that is a real risk! And scary, scary, scary!!
My hope is still Ukraine is balkanized- It’s the least worse scenario. Effectively freezing the fighting.
I’m sure Poland would relish the expansion of territory. Hungry would probably take some territory as well. That scenario is not without problems but it could freeze the war, possibly permanently?

Turkish leadership had better be on their toes! Changing the leadership there, could change the outcome in the Black Sea/Ukraine/Russia etc

By: Kaz

Kaz — Sun, 15 Jan 2023 16:12:31 +0000

In the video from The Duran about this battle. They are reporting that bakhmut is getting surrounded. The only open road is to the west of bakhmut which Russia is trying to close now.

Also they report that most of the experienced personal in soledar / bakhmut are deceased.

And that the Russian force with the exception of the the Airborne division was not touched in these battles.

The longer this goes on the higher the chance of a spillover. Because this is just revving up the war engine.