--- title: "Ukraine Divided: Poland/NATO expansion by stealth?" type: "post" post_id: "2321" slug: "ukraine-divided-poland-nato-expansion-by-stealth" canonical: "https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2022/05/25/ukraine-divided-poland-nato-expansion-by-stealth/" markdown_url: "https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2022/05/25/ukraine-divided-poland-nato-expansion-by-stealth.md" json_url: "https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2022/05/25/ukraine-divided-poland-nato-expansion-by-stealth.json" txt_url: "https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2022/05/25/ukraine-divided-poland-nato-expansion-by-stealth.txt" published: "2022-05-25T12:15:39+00:00" modified: "2022-05-25T12:16:57+00:00" author: "penny2" categories: - "Uncategorized" tags: - "NATO" - "Poland" - "Russia" - "Ukraine" - "US" site_name: "PFYT2" publisher: "" language: "en-US" generator: "easyPress Markdown" generator_version: "1.0.6" --- **Ukraine has made an interesting move regarding Poland.** [Poles to be granted ‘special status’ in Ukraine](https://www.euractiv.com/section/all/short_news/poles-to-be-granted-special-status-in-ukraine/) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > Polish President Andrzej Duda visited Kyiv on Sunday (22 May), where he delivered a speech in the Ukrainian parliament. The same day, the Ukrainian UNIAN agency reported that his **Ukrainian counterpart promised to give Poles a special status resembling what Ukrainians now enjoy in Poland.** > > “We have to look into the Polish law about the people temporarily displaced to Ukraine that, **in fact makes Ukrainian citizens equal to the Polish citizens, except for the voting right.** On the president’s initiative, **a similar bill (concerning the Polish citizens) will now be adopted in Ukraine**,” said Zelenskyy’s press secretary Sergey Nikiforov, as [reported](https://www.pap.pl/aktualnosci/news,1218207,rozrozniac-wrogow-i-doceniac-przyjaciol-zelenski-planuje-przyznac-polakom) by the Polish PAP agency after UNIAN. **So Ukraine is set to give Polish citizens equal rights- except for voting. Which can be changed easily later. Equal rights for all are after all equal rights.**… **Go back to my report dated from late March 2022 and reread some of the comments- included below:** > [Russia shifting focus from Kiev? Was that the focus?](https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2022/03/25/russia-shifting-focus-from-kiev-was-that-the-focus/) Kazsays: [March 26, 2022 at 10:44 am](https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2022/03/25/russia-shifting-focus-from-kiev-was-that-the-focus/#comment-1077)•[Edit](https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/wp-admin/comment.php?action=editcomment&c=1077) Hi Penny, Don’t know if you know about this fact. Aftermath of WW2 the borders of both Poland and Germany changed. Germany’s eastern part became part of Poland and the eastern part of Poland became territory of the USSR and now Ukraine. I think its fair to say that **the most west part of Ukraine which was formally Poland is still ethnically Polish** and I wouldn’t be surprised if Poland would like to have that back.[Reply](https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2022/03/25/russia-shifting-focus-from-kiev-was-that-the-focus/?replytocom=1077#respond) [Pennysays:](http://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca) [March 26, 2022 at 1:12 pm](https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2022/03/25/russia-shifting-focus-from-kiev-was-that-the-focus/#comment-1078)•[Edit](https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/wp-admin/comment.php?action=editcomment&c=1078) Hey Kaz: After reading your response I went off to do a search on maps of a split up Ukraine and OMG there are so many. I just wanted to find the one that first came across my computer screen https://mapsontheweb.zoom-maps.com/post/78320107079/polish-radicals-proposing-the-split-up-of-ukraine one above and in 2014 there was an article in the Atlantic suggesting that perhaps it was time for Ukraine to break apart Certainly the idea has been tossed around for some time. What I find interesting is that **if Ukraine was broken up- NATO could advance it’s interests through an enlarged Poland and Romania**…[Reply](https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2022/03/25/russia-shifting-focus-from-kiev-was-that-the-focus/?replytocom=1078#respond) [penny2says:](http://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca) [March 26, 2022 at 1:16 pm](https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2022/03/25/russia-shifting-focus-from-kiev-was-that-the-focus/#comment-1079)•[Edit](https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/wp-admin/comment.php?action=editcomment&c=1079) I’m suggesting that NATO has an interest in Ukraine falling to pieces- because Russia will not stand for the expansion to their borders.. **Everyone is positioning for their own advantage** ![](https://i0.wp.com/pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/image-20.png?resize=580%2C357&ssl=1)[Belarussian Leader in a meeting with Russia’s Putin](http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/68460) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- **Alexander Lukashenko**: There are some interesting surprises in Ukraine, as you know very well. We are concerned, and I believe you are too, over the steps **politicians are already taking to split Ukraine. We are worried that they are prepared – the Poles and NATO – to take away Western Ukraine, as it was before 1939.** But we are **worried not only over security but also because this is strategy for Western Belarus**. Therefore, we are keeping our eyes open, and, as I have already said, the Ukrainians will still have to ask us to prevent the western and other parts of Ukraine from being separated. This is my position but you certainly know it. I know this. Therefore, **we have many problems in this context** but they are not exactly our problems – they are their problems that we will have to resolve. Take, for example, P**resident Duda’s incomprehensible conduct yesterday in Kiev. By the way, he decides practically nothing in Poland** but just comes up with these fakes **Belarus sees the potential for future problem:** 1- **Suggestive Ukraine is not *winning* as is always claimed in 5 eyes media** 2- **Alternative outcomes being prepared for** **One last piece** ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > By **giving special rights to the citizens of Poland, the Kiev regime is handing over their rights to the territory of its state and thus legalizing the de facto occupation of Ukraine,** wrote the official representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of Russia, Maria Zaharova, on the telegram channel > > “***Not separatists, but the president himself hands over to the citizens of another state the rights to the territory of his state, without giving them the citizenship of Ukraine.”*** ***“Under the guise of preserving its own identity, the Kiev regime is destroying it, opening fire on its own for eight years, and now doing an incredible thing – legalizing the de facto occupation of its state,”*** Zaharova wrote.