And now Biden is calling for Putin’s ouster?
And Trudeau is trying to pass himself off as a saviour of some sorts.
The US and Canada are all over this one.

https://youtu.be/q67l4qPKbJ4

But everybody’s devil (Putin) gets all the blame (and is apparently a Nazi according to the loudest jews):

https://youtu.be/i9VLwkOoGdQ

(BTW: Putin is no hero. He is just another controlled opposition figure who is playing his part of the Kabuki)

I’m suggesting that NATO has an interest in Ukraine falling to pieces- because Russia will not stand for the expansion to their borders..

Everyone is positioning for their own advantage

Hey Kaz:

After reading your response I went off to do a search on maps of a split up Ukraine and OMG there are so many. I just wanted to find the one that first came across my computer screen

https://mapsontheweb.zoom-maps.com/post/78320107079/polish-radicals-proposing-the-split-up-of-ukraine

one above
and in 2014 there was an article in the Atlantic suggesting that perhaps it was time for Ukraine to break apart

https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2014/02/is-it-time-for-ukraine-to-split-up/283967/

Certainly the idea has been tossed around for some time.

What I find interesting is that if Ukraine was broken up- NATO could advance it’s interests through an enlarged Poland and Romania…

Hi Penny, Don’t know if you know about this fact.

Aftermath of WW2 the borders of both Poland and Germany changed.
Germany’s eastern part became part of Poland and the eastern part of Poland became territory of the USSR and now Ukraine.

I think its fair to say that the most west part of Ukraine which was formally Poland is still ethnically Polish and I wouldn’t be surprised if Poland would like to have that back.

Hey GC!

Yes, I’ve seen the reports as well, (included above) and that’s what looked to be the plan. It makes sense (understand the strategy) in making the land bridge.
There was a map circulating in Poland indicating Poland had ideas of taking chunks of Ukraine.
We will see, eventually.

I saw a report earlier today where Russia announced it had achieved the first stage of its goals in Ukraine. I guess that was the land bridge between Crimea and Donbass and the elimination of the fuel supply.

Forever and a day, Ukraine has been an economic and energy basket case…dependent on Russia to heat homes in winter. With the growing scarcity of fuel world wide this is unlikely to change.

Looks like Russia’s overall goal is just to set up a viable buffer zone in eastern Ukraine and then let the West do what it will in Western Ukraine…any kind of long term sustenance of Western Ukraine will bankrupt those who facitilate it. The West is not known for its largesse when it comes to its colonies. Au contraire! It typically loots, beggars and then abandons them. We will see.