--- title: "Pt.3: Vaccines Not Silver Bullets- A Fact Realized Sooner With More Scientific Debate" type: "post" post_id: "1401" slug: "pt-3-vaccines-not-silver-bullets-a-fact-realized-sooner-with-more-scientific-debate" canonical: "https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2022/01/24/pt-3-vaccines-not-silver-bullets-a-fact-realized-sooner-with-more-scientific-debate/" markdown_url: "https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2022/01/24/pt-3-vaccines-not-silver-bullets-a-fact-realized-sooner-with-more-scientific-debate.md" json_url: "https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2022/01/24/pt-3-vaccines-not-silver-bullets-a-fact-realized-sooner-with-more-scientific-debate.json" txt_url: "https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2022/01/24/pt-3-vaccines-not-silver-bullets-a-fact-realized-sooner-with-more-scientific-debate.txt" published: "2022-01-24T14:40:16+00:00" modified: "2022-01-24T14:40:16+00:00" author: "penny2" categories: - "Uncategorized" tags: - "Big Pharma" - "Canada" - "Covid" - "Media" - "perception management" - "state sponsored terrorism" - "Technocracy" site_name: "PFYT2" publisher: "" language: "en-US" generator: "easyPress Markdown" generator_version: "1.0.6" --- > [Pt.2: Vaccines Not Silver Bullets- A Fact Realized Sooner With More Scientific Debate](https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2022/01/24/pt-2-vaccines-not-silver-bullets-a-fact-realized-sooner-with-more-scientific-debate/) Misguided Mandates ------------------ **One reason for the jab mandates was the claim it would end the pandemic. That was always completely bogus.The second bogus excuse for the mandate was the vaccinated wouldn’t spread the virus- This is how the ‘vaxx passport’ and the inevitable discrimination was justified**. **The vaxxed transmitted the virus. And they continue to transmit. As well as get sick and die. The elderly still die in the largest numbers, same as before the jab that was supposed to protect them.** **FAIL** > **That vaccines would get us to a vaccine-based herd immunity had been one of the two main scientific justifications for vaccine mandates. Now it was gone.** > > **The other justification for mandates had been that the vaccinated don’t transmit the virus.** > > Dr. Cyrille Cohen, head of the immunotherapy lab at Bar-Ilan University, and adviser to the Israeli government on vaccine trials, [said ](https://unherd.com/thepost/israeli-vaccine-chief-we-have-made-mistakes/)that with respect to transmission with Omicron, **“we don’t see virtually any difference … between people vaccinated and nonvaccinated,” adding “both get infected with the virus, more or less at the same pace.”** **The rancour that we, the vaccinated, are increasingly directing against the unvaccinated, fuels itself by remaining wilfully oblivious of this later painful truth: we too spread, to ourselves, and to the unvaccinated, as they to us and each other.** **The vitriolic vaxxed have over stimulated amygdalas. They’ve taken leave of their senses. And have become completely irrational and out of touch with reality.** > **The master narrative was silent about natural immunity** and its relationship to vaccination status. Many scientist-physicians, from prominent universities in the U.S. with specialties in public health, argue that one can be for the use of the COVID vaccine, but also against mandating it for unvaccinated people who are already immune. > [Hey Doc, WTF is in the Jab?](https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2022/01/20/hey-doc-wtf-is-in-the-jab/) > Those unvaccinated people who were exposed to the virus, make up a huge number. For instance, in the U.S., according to a Columbia University [study](https://www.publichealth.columbia.edu/public-health-now/news/active-covid-cases-may-be-ten-times-official-count-study), by Jan. 31, 2021 (before many vaccines had been given) 10 months into the pandemic, 120 million Americans had natural immunity. Now, 12 months later, with the much more infectious Delta and Omicron variants, it is likely a **highly significant majority of the unvaccinated now have natural immunity.** **The Vaccinated and Their Negative Vaccine Effectiveness** ----------------------------------------------------------- > **Then on Jan. 1, 2022, [a study](https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.30.21268565v1.full) of vaccine effectiveness against getting infection in Ontario –** not yet peer-reviewed **– showed a trend that had already shown up in Denmark**. It examined provincial data and was authored by members of Public Health Ontario, ICES, the Dalla Lana School of Public Health, UHN, and other major Ontario university and health programs. > > They found two things of note. **The first was that “VE \[vaccine effectiveness against getting infection\] against Omicron was only 37% > 7 days following a third dose.”** That doesn’t mean that those in the other 63 per cent who did get the infection might not have got some protection from severe infection, but the authors were unable to measure protection from severity from the data that had. > > The second finding was more dramatic:, **“We also observed negative VE against Omicron among those who had received 2 doses compared to unvaccinated individuals.” Translation: Negative VE means that the vaccinated got more infections than the unvaccinated.** **The vaccinated get more Covid infections then the unvaxxed. This explains why multiple double jabbed co workers at hubby’s place of employment contracted Covid. While those that were unvaxxed DID NOT!** **That “negative finding” they noted, had already been observed elsewhere.** “In the [Danish study](https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.20.21267966v2), there was no significant protection against Omicron infection beyond 31 days” after the second dose of the Pfizer**. The Danes also found significant negative VE estimates 91-150 days after the second dose.**” **The Danish study showed those vaccinated with the Pfizer had a 76.5 per cent greater chance of getting infected than unvaccinated people. With the Moderna, the vaccinated had a 36.7 per cent greater chance of getting infected than the unvaccinated after 90 days.** > [EU Drug Regulator Warns AGAINST Repeated Covid Boosters & Damaging Immune System](https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2022/01/16/eu-drug-regulator-warns-against-repeated-covid-boosters-damaging-immune-system/) > The authors discuss how negative vaccine effectiveness finding might arise. It may not mean that the vaccine actually decreases the person’s immunity. ***(Though it could)*** There could be confounding factors. One possible explanation they raise is that in Ontario, a vaccine certificate system was introduced in the fall of 2021, and only those who had two doses could travel by air, rail, go to bars, gyms, etc., and so they may have had more social contacts than the unvaccinated who were shut in. But even if true it would still mean that the vaccines are not protecting us as much as we’d like, which is nothing to celebrate. > > Another possible explanation the authors raise is “the possibility that [antigenic imprinting](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5853211/) could impact the immune response to Omicron.” It had been observed in the past that the immune system is highly influenced by the first exposure to a microbe (antigen) that it encounters. **It’s called “original antigenic sin.” When a second exposure occurs, to a similar but not identical microbe, the immune system reacts as though it is targeting the original microbe. But the new invader isn’t the original, and so the immune system is actually less effective in dealing with this.** **In essence the immune system is weakened for a microbe too similar to its first similar exposure. This phenomenon was originally described as occurring in influenza on occasion.** This is only a theoretical possibility here, not proven for COVID, but [now a matter of scientific discussion](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2772613421000068). **The negative vaccine efficacy has since shown up in [Iceland](https://www.covid.is/data), and [the U.K.](https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1025358/Vaccine-surveillance-report-week-41.pdf) as well.** The Ontario authors are to be applauded for thoughtfully laying out some possibilities to think through, so as to determine what might be the cause. > [The Original Antigenic Sin: COVID-19 Vaccination and Sub-Optimal Initial Immune Priming ….](https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2022/01/10/the-original-antigenic-sin-covid-19-vaccination-and-sub-optimal-initial-immune-priming/) > Vinayak Prasad, the UCSF epidemiologist, says [if you put the Danish, Ontario, U.S., and Kaiser studies ](https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.01.07.22268919v1)about Omicron together, **“it’s time to face the reality about the vaccines.”** > > “**[Two doses](https://brownstone.org/articles/it-is-time-to-face-reality-about-the-vaccines/) of vaccine does nothing or almost nothing to stop symptomatic SARS-CoV-2,” he says. “Three doses barely does anything, and the effect will likely attenuate over time.”** He says, “Booster mandates make no sense. … Boosting should happen in populations where it further reduces severe disease and death – a.k.a. older and vulnerable people.” **If you’ve been reading my work since 2020, you’ll be fully aware that the vaccines were going to fail. They were leaky. Not properly tested. With no long term studies to support a single claim that was made about their benefit.** **The risk associated with them is an entirely different story. The dead with vaxx. The damaged hearts. Paralysis. Face and limbs. Blood disorders. Immune dysfunction. The largest experiment ever conducted on humanity. Medical. Psychological. Militarized medical totalitarianism. Most are still to blinded with fear to see what’s right in front of them** > [“Vaccines are a tool, not a silver bullet. If we’d allowed more scientific debate, we would have realized this earlier”](https://pennyforyourthoughts2.ca/2022/01/23/vaccines-are-a-tool-not-a-silver-bullet-if-wed-allowed-more-scientific-debate-we-would-have-realized-this-earlier/) **The excerpts contained within the 3 post series should be enough encouragement to read the entire Globe and Mail article. It’s limited in scope. Not nearly as condemning as it would be if I’d written it. But it’s definitely signalling a big change in the narrative.**