“Here’s the deal. The most vocal (((anti-virus))) people seem to be of a particular ethnicity.”

Might one be John Rappaport?
I’m not one hundred percent sold on everything he writes/claims. I used to read him more regularly but have gotten away from doing that. Why, exactly? Let’s just say sometimes it seemed as if I was to believe what he said/wrote for the simple reason that he said or wrote it. That doesn’t work for me all the time.

A while back I listened to these two persons being interviewed-
about the book linked below:

What Really Makes You Ill? Why Everything You Thought You Knew About Disease Is Wrong
by Dawn Lester, David Parker

https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/50351710-what-really-makes-you-ill-why-everything-you-thought-you-knew-about-dis

It was an interesting interview, but, I’ve not read the book so can’t comment on it at all.

“This book will explain what really makes you ill and why everything you thought you knew about disease is wrong.
-Doctors are men who prescribe medicines of which they know little, to cure diseases of which they know less, in human beings of whom they know nothing.” Voltaire.
“The conventional approach adopted by most healthcare systems entails the use of ‘medicine’ to treat human disease. The idea encapsulated by the above quote attributed to Voltaire, the nom de plume of François-Marie Arouet (1694-1778), will no doubt be regarded by most people as inapplicable to 21st century healthcare, especially the system known as modern medicine. The reason that people would consider this idea to no longer be relevant is likely to be based on the assumption that ‘medical science’ has made significant advances since the 18th century and that 21st century doctors therefore possess a thorough, if not quite complete, knowledge of medicines, diseases and the human body. Unfortunately, however, this would be a mistaken assumption; as this book will demonstrate.”

the interview was at the higherside chats- Feb 2020
I see there are other interviews accessible with these two individuals if it’s a topic you’d like to delve into?

You are right about the can of worms. But it is really crucial in this debate.

Obviously, if they don’t exist, then all of this is a scam and there are thousands (millions?) of people who claim they know them to be real and causing all sorts of sickness. If they don’t exist, then we have an entire field of medicine/science that is bogus. Are those that participate (virologists, etc) simply stupid, or are those thousands knowingly in on the scam?

But it could be that viruses exist, yet the Covid virus is bogus. Totally different debate.

Here’s the deal. The most vocal (((anti-virus))) people seem to be of a particular ethnicity. It is those that I find almost impossible to believe.

But here’s the rub: I have reached out to people I thought would know (at least thru their comments to me). When I ask them if they are real and have they actually seen them under electron microscopy, I get all sorts of weird runaround about herpes and shingles, etc.

I did get a link to a place where one can buy actual isolated viruses (supposedly).
https://genomes.atcc.org/?

Book I’m reading
As for the issue of Mareks in chickens that looks to be a well documented issue. Made worse by mass vaccination.

Leaky Vaccines Enhance Spread of Deadlier Chicken Viruses
Not Exactly Rocket Science (2015)

“he Marek’s vaccine is “imperfect” or “leaky.” That is, it protects chickens from developing disease, but doesn’t stop them from becoming infected or from spreading the virus. Inadvertently, this made it easier for the most virulent strains to survive. Such strains would normally kill their hosts so quickly that they’d die out. But in an immunised flock, they can persist because their lethal nature has been neutered. That’s not a problem for vaccinated individuals. But unvaccinated birds are now in serious trouble.”

The claim is this does not apply to leaky vaccines given to humans- such as the mumps vaccine which is known to be leaky. And the mrna jabs which are also known to be leaky- Wild speculation IMO

https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/leaky-vaccines-enhance-spread-of-deadlier-chicken-viruses

Isn’t it interesting that leaky vaccines, admittedly, made viruses deadlier but now that is never acknowledged?

Hey BMan
That’s a whole other can of worms. Some believe they are real. Some don’t.
I’m aware of the debate. It’s beyond my understanding.
And I’m not taking the easy way out on this subject- it’s beyond my knowledge level.
I’m a fan of the terrain theory. And am reading the book about Pasteur and Bechampe right now.
But it doesn’t seem to me that terrain theory excludes the existence of viruses. (on my limited knowledge and reading)

The article took into consideration ADE. I think that’s a real issue with this jab that needs addressing

I think everyone in this article believes that viruses are real.

Are they real?